From nobody Mon Sep 22 21:26:12 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4cVx4Z0Zpvz68SdK for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 21:26:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Received: from mail.infocus-llc.com (mail.infocus-llc.com [199.15.120.13]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4cVx4X5HSKz3MyD for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 21:26:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fullermd@over-yonder.net) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of fullermd@over-yonder.net designates 199.15.120.13 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=fullermd@over-yonder.net Received: from draco.over-yonder.net (draco.over-yonder.net [IPv6:2001:470:1f0f:11ae::5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange x25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.tarragon.infocus-llc.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4cVx4Q293PzDw9 for ; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 16:26:14 -0500 (CDT) Received: by draco.over-yonder.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 4cVx4N4P8QzJYj; Mon, 22 Sep 2025 16:26:12 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 22 Sep 2025 16:26:12 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 15.0-ALPHA3 Now Available Message-ID: References: <20250922050504.42F921312A@freefall.freebsd.org> <06b8b6b8-4e5e-4f39-b27f-ec9617f5a2da@freebsd.org> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <06b8b6b8-4e5e-4f39-b27f-ec9617f5a2da@freebsd.org> X-Editor: vi X-OS: FreeBSD User-Agent: Mutt/2.2.14 (2025-02-20) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.21 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.92)[-0.920]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[over-yonder.net]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-stable@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4cVx4X5HSKz3MyD Blatant self-promotion follows: > DO NOT USE FREEBSD-UPDATE TO UPGRADE TO 15.0-ALPHA3. > > It will break your system by installing a new libc before it > installs libsys. The problem basically boils down to there being a window during the install process where libc is broken, and freebsd-update needs to exec programs that depend on libc working to continue proceeding. I've not tested it, but it seems likely that since sysutils/freebsd-rustdate doesn't need to exec external programs during the install process, it should be able to run through OK, so could serve as a workaround. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Systems/Network Administrator | http://www.over-yonder.net/~fullermd/ On the Internet, nobody can hear you scream.