From nobody Sat Nov 18 09:44:18 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SXTPZ4qMTz50rXL for ; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 09:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pstef@freebsd.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:6074::16:84]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "freefall.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SXTPZ3yVRz3gm3; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 09:44:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pstef@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1700300658; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=BbXYv599HNCV9rss8OOevR5AlDgGY5HFs7KJWZ3oNP0=; b=LDJJXt7D8GLOYSlaGo7YWJD/14gSWepYmJ5u7Hfr71+OPL+m/WOkZdCVV0Om6OU0DxTlTF p+MUZ0p9AtQINXF+CSrXSdIPnzNrbPveo2Ezh0NFzrc8hXqkPycX/VjWllI1JV2hyn5/3d TPOqXPCizyVVCYDstRaX/8IGMtpzmPy4whSyYpTJ6gIUm0vxK2mqJaH6pVle/TDRuh3BFu v7+/eQUs8e6jGIcwyjzlo1A8zTQJE+JmSa3j12dQ17jMCTq6xosbondcbhPw8j8bcX503c vbs5P2LArEDq5K8NTgCbKI75SEaN6vK1TdKlVOUm/m3+sJqQykeLzO0pxpM7Ig== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1700300658; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=BbXYv599HNCV9rss8OOevR5AlDgGY5HFs7KJWZ3oNP0=; b=meGw4a8ozhNDkezk2RtHJcia1Qmx0jYEzY9UTIvfdZW1RRyqEmNoPsaAAnYQhPC6+8aW82 fDTafBwJdtW1ILacUlJIcGLiJU+6SfB2MUQjV7uNuJKFQcM/1zDhUb5tkFQywPrS+RLUCS M6ncvKPxx8/NfiXPuKSIGGRwSKD8M8qYLqhG9w/mO8y4xWXf54foGIHo5PQiodVMDR9Ejz 8BkVlf+jurs3IhoXjdaATf+W5V/T+zw+9hNnqoWAtdFlTincbJ8jXAazMZOV0Q7Auy9vvx Fl00k5lkEQvCs7iOoiQquR9ax1y5ZUxocZm9mXicTuSfN5dx9zpGyDlj1sbcAw== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1700300658; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=Zcv+E1q1E40JsRyTVuYc5Wt0rof0W0lpXoNZhu1RcZWy1mbLhsXSlb6AiSFyTKlcj5nzxn XJXcIaHHT0TlvHaWFgnH7rp4K9DwKs68vjh+bHaFbZPBumfbgD7nzuYYg0xH6j8gueSS9J cdvxbfMLXqkffMdFFknSdXZfqVKnz1CY04YbVzeyoOwAeO1Qk3nj3IDlopCJIBmM8uKg8A 1bsSNxhEzxq7yr4oQzEJyDgoi7AS86J4pwwNIXxw6CDDvNyaOTYIzTXieJ6AoLubIXHg1F xf/Ic/JJbilJCUOpf8EpkCPQAmih14SrSa20IhDLc4FEyn0PfYDJ8MjyQxR5KQ== Received: by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 1403) id 66F051DAB7; Sat, 18 Nov 2023 09:44:18 +0000 (UTC) Date: Sat, 18 Nov 2023 10:44:18 +0100 From: "Piotr P. Stefaniak" To: Marek Zarychta Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: csh to sh migration for root in RELENG_14 Message-ID: References: <6c6add3c-4a5e-4d84-9964-9a9448a36c95@sentex.net> <25943.49653.523313.53953@hergotha.csail.mit.edu> List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: On 2023-11-18 10:29:08, Marek Zarychta wrote: >The change of root's shell from csh to sh was to attract a new >generation of admins who were used to bash and similar shells. There is >no turning back, no escape from this trend. We will probably also >transit with $EDITOR from vi to ee in the future. I know you're trolling, but to make it clear: that was not the reason. Piotr