Re: Is 14.0 to released based on 0 for sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled ?

From: Martin Matuska <mm_at_FreeBSD.org>
Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2023 22:47:23 UTC
The issues I had to deal with went away by deleting the problematic 
files (for good, no snapshot copies left). Deleting a dataset should be 
even better.

On 10. 11. 2023 17:58, Xin LI wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 10, 2023 at 7:50 AM Martin Matuska <mm@freebsd.org> wrote:
>
>     Hi Xin,
>
>     since when have you been using block cloning on the system? Is it
>     possible that there is already corrupted block-cloned data from the
>
>
> That's a good question, I can't 100% rule out this possibility.  I was 
> following -CURRENT in ~weekly to ~monthly on that system, and the pool 
> was created in March 2014.
>
> Do you think I should try rebuilding the pool from scratch?  I do have 
> remote backup on a different server but was avoiding it because it's 
> time consuming.
>
>     past? Is everything on one dataset or are you using multiple datasets
>     for /usr/src and /usr/obj?
>
>
> /usr/src and /usr/obj are separate datasets, and the system runs 
> Poudriere so it have multiple copies of slightly different /usr/src 
> and /usr/obj's.
>
> Is there a way to identify datasets with block cloning, by the way?  
> Maybe I should try recreating these datasets first?
>
>
>
>     Best regards,
>     mm
>
>     On 10. 11. 2023 8:04, Xin Li wrote:
>     > On 2023-11-05 16:34, Martin Matuska wrote:
>     >> OpenZFS 2.2.0 in FreeBSD 14 fully supports block cloning. You can
>     >> work with pools that have feature@block_cloning enabled.
>     >> The sysctl variable vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled affects the behavior of
>     >> zfs_clone_range() which is called by copy_file_range(). When it is
>     >> set to 0, zfs_clone_range() does not do block cloning.
>     >> If it is set to anything else than 0, zfs_clone_range() does block
>     >> cloning (if all conditions are met - same ZFS pool, correct data
>     >> alignment, etc.).
>     >>
>     >> In FreeBSD-main, this tunable is enabled and I plan to enable
>     it in
>     >> stable/14 somewhere around December 11, 2023.
>     >>
>     >> As of today I personally use block cloning on all my systems.
>     >
>     > I'd like to share a different data point.  It still panics on my
>     > storage (running -CURRENT about a week ago) when enabled and can be
>     > triggered by "make buildworld buildkernel".  I wasn't able to
>     capture
>     > earlier coredump until the most recent one, which panicked with:
>     >
>     >
>     > cpuid = 2
>     > time = 1699593456
>     > KDB: stack backtrace:
>     > db_trace_self_wrapper() at db_trace_self_wrapper+0x2b/frame
>     > 0xfffffe022f2bd7e0
>     > vpanic() at vpanic+0x132/frame 0xfffffe022f2bd910
>     > spl_panic() at spl_panic+0x3a/frame 0xfffffe022f2bd970
>     > dmu_brt_clone() at dmu_brt_clone+0x555/frame 0xfffffe022f2bd9e0
>     > zfs_clone_range() at zfs_clone_range+0xa4c/frame 0xfffffe022f2bdbb0
>     > zfs_freebsd_copy_file_range() at
>     > zfs_freebsd_copy_file_range+0x18a/frame 0xfffffe022f2bdc30
>     > vn_copy_file_range() at vn_copy_file_range+0x163/frame
>     0xfffffe022f2bdce0
>     > kern_copy_file_range() at kern_copy_file_range+0x380/frame
>     > 0xfffffe022f2bddb0
>     > sys_copy_file_range() at sys_copy_file_range+0x78/frame
>     > 0xfffffe022f2bde00
>     > amd64_syscall() at amd64_syscall+0x153/frame 0xfffffe022f2bdf30
>     > fast_syscall_common() at fast_syscall_common+0xf8/frame
>     > 0xfffffe022f2bdf30
>     > --- syscall (569, FreeBSD ELF64, copy_file_range), rip =
>     > 0x7fbb2da4ada, rsp = 0x7fbb02c5d48, rbp = 0x7fbb02c61e0 ---
>     > Uptime: 2h32m27s
>     > Dumping 7800 out of 32696
>     > MB:..1%..11%..21%..31%..41%..51%..61%..71%..81%..91%
>     >
>     > #0  __curthread () at /usr/src/sys/amd64/include/pcpu_aux.h:57
>     > #1  doadump (textdump=textdump@entry=1) at
>     > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:405
>     > #2  0xffffffff80694480 in kern_reboot (howto=260) at
>     > /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:526
>     > #3  0xffffffff8069497f in vpanic (fmt=0xffffffff82603415
>     "VERIFY3(nbps
>     > == numbufs) failed (%llu == %llu)\n",
>     ap=ap@entry=0xfffffe022f2bd950)
>     > at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:970
>     > #4  0xffffffff8232999a in spl_panic (file=<optimized out>,
>     > func=<optimized out>, line=<unavailable>, fmt=<unavailable>) at
>     > /usr/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/module/os/freebsd/spl/spl_misc.c:103
>     > #5  0xffffffff823a6605 in dmu_brt_clone
>     > (os=os@entry=0xfffff800c5ce4000, object=<optimized out>,
>     > offset=offset@entry=0, length=length@entry=207477,
>     > tx=tx@entry=0xfffff8071a108d00, bps=bps@entry=0xfffffe01e218c000,
>     > nbps=2, replay=0)
>     >     at /usr/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/module/zfs/dmu.c:2303
>     > #6  0xffffffff8250f67c in zfs_clone_range (inzp=0xfffff804416ac000,
>     > inoffp=0xfffff800b81cb048, outzp=0xfffff806f58f03a0,
>     > outoffp=0xfffff800b8063048, lenp=lenp@entry=0xfffffe022f2bdbf0,
>     > cr=0xfffff8000a6fe600)
>     >     at /usr/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/module/zfs/zfs_vnops.c:1326
>     > #7  0xffffffff8234b3ba in zfs_freebsd_copy_file_range
>     > (ap=0xfffffe022f2bdc48) at
>     >
>     /usr/src/sys/contrib/openzfs/module/os/freebsd/zfs/zfs_vnops_os.c:6294
>     > #8  0xffffffff8079f443 in VOP_COPY_FILE_RANGE
>     > (invp=0xfffff804416cb1c0, inoffp=0xfffff800b81cb048,
>     > outvp=0xfffff806f51d3380, outoffp=0xfffff800b8063048,
>     > lenp=0xfffffe022f2bdd48, incred=0xfffff8000a6fe600,
>     flags=<optimized
>     > out>,
>     >     outcred=<optimized out>, fsizetd=<optimized out>) at
>     > ./vnode_if.h:2385
>     > #9  vn_copy_file_range (invp=invp@entry=0xfffff804416cb1c0,
>     > inoffp=inoffp@entry=0xfffff800b81cb048,
>     > outvp=outvp@entry=0xfffff806f51d3380,
>     > outoffp=outoffp@entry=0xfffff800b8063048,
>     > lenp=lenp@entry=0xfffffe022f2bdd48, flags=flags@entry=0,
>     >     incred=0xfffff8000a6fe600, outcred=0xfffff8000a6fe600,
>     > fsize_td=0xfffffe022925b3a0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_vnops.c:3087
>     > #10 0xffffffff8079a070 in kern_copy_file_range
>     > (td=td@entry=0xfffffe022925b3a0, infd=<optimized out>,
>     > inoffp=0xfffff800b81cb048, inoffp@entry=0x0, outfd=<optimized out>,
>     > outoffp=0xfffff800b8063048, outoffp@entry=0x0,
>     len=9223372036854775807,
>     >     flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:4973
>     > #11 0xffffffff8079a178 in sys_copy_file_range
>     (td=0xfffffe022925b3a0,
>     > uap=0xfffffe022925b7a0) at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c:5011
>     > #12 0xffffffff80a97aa3 in syscallenter (td=0xfffffe022925b3a0) at
>     > /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/../../kern/subr_syscall.c:188
>     > #13 amd64_syscall (td=0xfffffe022925b3a0, traced=0) at
>     > /usr/src/sys/amd64/amd64/trap.c:1194
>     > #14 <signal handler called>
>     > #15 0x000007fbb2da4ada in ?? ()
>     >
>     >
>     > and disabling bclone does appear to allow me to finish buildworld /
>     > buildkernel.
>     >
>     > The pool didn't have redaction_list_spill enabled.
>     >
>     > The ASSERT3U(nbps, ==, numbufs); in dmu_brt_clone was added when
>     block
>     > clone is first implemented.
>     >
>     > It seems that I am the only person who is seeing this as of
>     today.  It
>     > seems that block clone was indeed being used for some data:
>     >
>     > saturn  bcloneused 1.18M                          -
>     > saturn  bclonesaved 1.21M                          -
>     > saturn  bcloneratio 2.02x                          -
>     >
>     > The pool have dedup enabled for some datasets.
>     >
>     > Any suggestions?  (In extreme cases I can recreate the storage pool
>     > from backup or copy the data somewhere else, then recreate the
>     pool,
>     > then copy data back, but I'd like to avoid that if possible)
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     >
>     >>
>     >> mm
>     >>
>     >> On 04/11/2023 13:35, Mark Millard wrote:
>     >>> On Nov 4, 2023, at 04:38, Mike Karels <mike@karels.net> wrote:
>     >>>
>     >>>> On 4 Nov 2023, at 4:01, Ronald Klop wrote:
>     >>>>
>     >>>>> On 11/4/23 02:39, Mark Millard wrote:
>     >>>>>> It looks to me like releng/14.0 (as of 14.0-RC4) still has:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> int zfs_bclone_enabled;
>     >>>>>> SYSCTL_INT(_vfs_zfs, OID_AUTO, bclone_enabled, CTLFLAG_RWTUN,
>     >>>>>> &zfs_bclone_enabled, 0, "Enable block cloning");
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> leaving block cloning effectively disabled by default, no
>     >>>>>> matter what the pool has enabled.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> https://www.freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/relnotes/ also reports:
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>> QUOTE
>     >>>>>> OpenZFS has been upgraded to version 2.2. New features include:
>     >>>>>> •
>     >>>>>> block cloning, which allows shallow copies of blocks in file
>     >>>>>> copies. This is optional, and disabled by default; it can be
>     >>>>>> enabled with sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled=1.
>     >>>>>> END QUOTE
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I think this answers your question in the subject.
>     >>>> I think so too (and I wrote that text).
>     >>> Thanks for the confirmation of the final intent.
>     >>>
>     >>> I believe this makes:
>     >>>
>     >>> QUOTE
>     >>> author Brian Behlendorf <behlendorf1@llnl.gov> 2023-05-25
>     20:53:08
>     >>> +0000
>     >>> committer GitHub <noreply@github.com> 2023-05-25 20:53:08 +0000
>     >>> commit 91a2325c4a0fbe01d0bf212e44fa9d85017837ce (patch)
>     >>> tree dd01dfce6aeef357ade1775acf18aade535c6271
>     >>> . . .
>     >>> Update compatibility.d files
>     >>>
>     >>> Add an openzfs-2.2 compatibility file for the next release.
>     Edon-R
>     >>> support has been enabled for FreeBSD removing the need for
>     different
>     >>> FreeBSD and Linux files. Symlinks for the -linux and -freebsd
>     names
>     >>> are created for any scripts expecting that convention.
>     Additionally,
>     >>> a symlink for ubunutu-22.04 was added. Signed-off-by: Brian
>     >>> Behlendorf <behlendorf1@llnl.gov> Closes #14833
>     >>> END QUOTE
>     >>>
>     >>> technically incorrect in that compatibility.d/openzfs-2.2-freebsd
>     >>> should be distinct in content from compatibility.d/openzfs-2.2 so
>     >>> that block cloning would not be enabled.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>>>>> Just curiousity on my part about the default completeness of
>     >>>>>> openzfs-2.2 support, not an objection either way.
>     >>>>>>
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> I haven't seen new issues with block cloning in the last few
>     weeks
>     >>>>> mentioned on the mailing lists. All known issues are fixed
>     AFAIK.
>     >>>>> But I can imagine that the risk+effect ratio of data
>     corruption is
>     >>>>> seen as a bit too high for a 14.0 release for this particular
>     >>>>> feature. That does not diminish the rest of the completeness of
>     >>>>> openzfs-2.2.
>     >>>>>
>     >>>>> NB: I'm not involved in developing openzfs or the decision
>     making
>     >>>>> in the release. Just repeating what I read on the lists.
>     >>>> There was another block cloning fix in 14.0-RC4; see the
>     commit log.
>     >>>> Maybe there will be no more issues, but it seems that corner
>     cases
>     >>>> were
>     >>>> still being found recently.
>     >>> Looks like I'll stay at openzfs-2.1 pool features until there is
>     >>> a release that no longer has the default status:
>     >>>
>     >>> 0 for sysctl vfs.zfs.bclone_enabled
>     >>>
>     >>> I use main [so: 15 now] but only enable openzfs-2.* pool features
>     >>> supported by default on some FreeBSD release, that has an accurate
>     >>> compatibility.d/openzfs-2.*-freebsd file.
>     >>>
>     >>> ===
>     >>> Mark Millard
>     >>> marklmi at yahoo.com <http://yahoo.com>
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>
>     >
>