From nobody Tue Feb 28 16:20:09 2023 X-Original-To: stable@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PR2dz5RMfz3tdmP for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:20:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Received: from www121.sakura.ne.jp (www121.sakura.ne.jp [153.125.133.21]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PR2dx66yjz3GRr for ; Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:20:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp has no SPF policy when checking 153.125.133.21) smtp.mailfrom=junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp; dmarc=none Received: from kalamity.joker.local (123-1-88-210.area1b.commufa.jp [123.1.88.210]) (authenticated bits=0) by www121.sakura.ne.jp (8.16.1/8.16.1/[SAKURA-WEB]/20201212) with ESMTPA id 31SGKAON001251 for ; Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:20:10 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp) Date: Wed, 1 Mar 2023 01:20:09 +0900 From: Tomoaki AOKI To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hard to read handbook.pdf in text system Message-Id: <20230301012009.5c12226ae0a909297bea460f@dec.sakura.ne.jp> In-Reply-To: References: <1865c3f2a77.d8c426ef98619.7810515437835370312@zoho.com> Organization: Junchoon corps X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.0) List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-stable List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.47 / 15.00]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.962]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.90)[-0.904]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7684, ipnet:153.125.128.0/18, country:JP]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sakura.ne.jp]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[stable@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PR2dx66yjz3GRr X-Spamd-Bar: - X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Just FYI: The commit below (on ports, misc/freebsd-doc-en) re-allowed HTML handbook. https://cgit.freebsd.org/ports/commit/misc/freebsd-doc-en?id=65985e68b04ebc41504bf5a014b0ebdd2868fc54 Note that other languages are not yet re-allowed. On Tue, 28 Feb 2023 16:28:38 +0100 (CET) henrichhartzer@tuta.io wrote: > I have run into this as well. `make config` used to offer text and HTML. Now it just offers PDF. I think HTML is standard, but I may be mistaken. > > Having the format in a text-readable format is a good idea. > > -Henrich > > > Feb 16, 2023, 22:01 by dufresnep@zoho.com: > > > I have installed very recently from what was probably: > > https://download.freebsd.org/snapshots/amd64/amd64/ISO-IMAGES/13.2/FreeBSD-13.2-PRERELEASE-amd64-20230204-d07eb716f35d-254363-disc1.iso > > > > When I got at the end of installation I choosed to install the handbook. > > > > When I booted on the system, I first searched in my home directory, then in /root, then after a while I saw the > > link to it in motd (message of the day) after logging in. > > > > I navigated to said directory to find a handbook in pdf format. > > > > So I installed lynx, and read the handbook online. Was able to get to a working well enough graphical system. > > > > Other people have remarked the oddity of the thing (to expect people on a text system to read the pdf file that explain how to install the graphical system). > > > > I am asking here because you are supposed to be interested in 13.2 development at this time if I understood right. > > But maybe I am suppose to ask to documentation team... unsure. > > > > My wish would be that the installer would install a text version of the handbook. > > > > > > -- Tomoaki AOKI