From nobody Mon Jun 23 16:25:06 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4bQtjB2SR7z60VMN for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:25:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@dino.sk) Received: from cm0.netlabit.sk (mailhost.netlabit.sk [84.245.65.72]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4bQtj84Pl6z48WH for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 16:25:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-questions@dino.sk) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-questions@dino.sk designates 84.245.65.72 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-questions@dino.sk; dmarc=none Received: from dino.sk ([84.245.95.254]) (AUTH: LOGIN milan, TLS: TLSv1.3,256bits,TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384) by cm0.netlabit.sk with ESMTPSA id 00000000007CEE84.0000000068597FE3.0000C84E; Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:25:07 +0200 Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2025 18:25:06 +0200 From: Milan Obuch To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question on future armv7 support Message-ID: <20250623182506.22583634.38715446.59394565@dino.sk> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.21.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd14.3) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.63 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.998]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.993]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.34)[-0.342]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ASN(0.00)[asn:5578, ipnet:84.245.64.0/18, country:SK]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dino.sk]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4bQtj84Pl6z48WH X-Spamd-Bar: -- On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 15:03:46 +0000 Micha=C5=82 Kruszewski wrote: > Hello, >=20 > In February 2024, it was announced that FreeBSD is dropping support > for 32-bit platforms. This seems reasonable as probably no one > launches new projects on i386, armv6, or powerpc. However, the story > with armv7 is a little bit different. >=20 > Armv7 is omnipresent on SoC platforms with FPGAs. > Not so long ago, AMD extended the lifecycle of its 7 Series SoCs to > 2040. I started using FreeBSD on 32-bit armv7 SoC platforms a few > weeks ago. My experience is surprisingly good. > It is much easier to use and maintain than the official PetaLinux > released by AMD. >=20 > I would like to incorporate FreeBSD into embedded classes at the > university. I am also thinking about using it in a commercial project. > However, the uncertainty of future support for armv7 makes me > reluctant. >=20 > Does anyone have more up-to-date information on whether armv7 support > will also be dropped and potentially when? >=20 > I have also recently noticed that FreeBSD journal issues from May to > December 2024 had columns dedicated to embedded FreeBSD. All of them > were written by Christopher R. Bowman, and utilized Zynq-7000 SoC, > which is armv7 based. I thought that the FreeBSD Foundation's actions > are somehow coordinated with the FreeBSD development. What would be > the point of promoting something that a few months earlier was marked > as a 'potentially deprecated'. >=20 See https://www.freebsd.org/platforms/ for official statement about platform support. Also https://www.freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/schedule/ for upcomming 15.0-RELEASE schedule. Also note you can help to extend support for armv7 platform with your work in any area of your choice - drivers, docs, testing etc. Regards, Milan