From nobody Sat Feb 15 00:53:57 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4Yvr5l5kc2z5nvh4 for ; Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Yvr5l4gmjz3JwW; Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1739580843; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=AwA7jcXl9JFjpoMj/QzOHJ7uiakGQhyc4SZMbNiqr2o=; b=MC+Ss5HGnBV9pN7M7qafpHhVhcuFZUatPXI8n8xf4/VCsNM1XJ+kedYrkI63aufzJQjDiK dml/mI3LDSwCTcFsSJCghOU8wvDByny5kEEkYTHdpsXZ74mDXfLKBPSjdF0GKfXcXIBWpi AkfTp0nh9+6sRZSCcuAoptNVctFRZCrkE4g6rXyet4pPvNkLP8VSI0xZuobOBiVXu01ipG 4mrMdyG785nsIBTb75PK0HPqzmjd/fKcSFCG+IBu/xYV132N0Dh7OJU9SKmmnySLo2xvUP JBFQk6f7OmKEEOV2oRNlbAkNnmqlF9RpOyz8GGCRXT4gElmEul4SLf/POACN5Q== ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1739580843; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=AwA7jcXl9JFjpoMj/QzOHJ7uiakGQhyc4SZMbNiqr2o=; b=COYspO5cf5+yy5vJoYOHCM29EXLysl0td3fWOn3+yBVgjJCgv0n+p9wtfoawE7WtNObAR0 9RVKAnrLaGgQWv1XU52BZzS3ngYbhkm7W+Imn6dfDwTAVNx80ZZ9v1Seat/jNNAuSCGOSZ wkj4zaRsenP5qdIHwnMVcbW5S/JqXi04RpqKcChKTsxtsYat6Z2RLXadjQOt2X6kfHj31W FqnmQNsBGsQ69tdVKH0oIMPkirf2bAk8enU1KKdGK3L7iCufUScYmeschQlQpgoYP6Ocde 2XaKg5FoXGVvNoSUmutoMpZSYCiJ2zEL4Bf3K4aABYSIQyvvy65xAF0yfjizIw== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1739580843; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=F8YfJaIDD38xTxfXSftJ6esWtzzT3DScsZOsLfrsgEfw0nEAdU91Ms8/y5tvKXoc5mcHCU IRXYOOjj9PZ35dkZ4avFNDzJTt7I3EcvF/evnP2c3LELbMNgF2n30MkpU0MmnK2vknOyap cP3lDq9zSNLGQ7f3LM+/gocS0G5LValJwSvsu0BfI45CWD9SgmTv8H0BDZ2QyvwcpNHFw4 tPxOiVsBObcmATQKkLgo0sf4SW7xp+MRAyd1nEIdLcIJLlcw7twzwN/xJSYhsz/brwvOkk HjEuYlVAotz7nRZ4KrCOPbvPrtBtYcEL0zVzFF+TLoQncWAhJc2PleCKEb0m6Q== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from hydra.lemis.com (121-200-11-253.79c80b.mel.nbn.aussiebb.net [121.200.11.253]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: grog/mail) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 4Yvr5k37XJztSK; Sat, 15 Feb 2025 00:54:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from grog@freebsd.org) Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2025 11:53:57 +1100 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Mayuresh Kathe Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: apple prevented freebsd on apple hardware? Message-ID: References: <202502140832.51E8WigX022745@sdf.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="p4gyq4SwjlIs2JZf" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <202502140832.51E8WigX022745@sdf.org> Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-3-5309-0418 Mobile: +61-490-494-038. Use only as instructed. WWW-Home-Page: https://www.FreeBSD X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 --p4gyq4SwjlIs2JZf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Friday, 14 February 2025 at 8:32:44 +0000, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > is it true that apple issued a veiled threat to freebsd to prevent > a port to apple hardware? To the best of my knowledge, no. FreeBSD does not run on Apple hardware, because that's not our emphasis, but NetBSD does. I do recall some contact from Apple decades ago. My memory is hazy, but I think they were asking us not to include a port that replicated Apple's GUI look and feel. It seems that they were more generally successful there, since I'm not aware of any such port any more. Greg -- When replying to this message, please copy the original recipients. If you don't, I may ignore the reply or reply to the original recipients. For more information, see http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Sent from my desktop computer. See complete headers for address and phone numbers. This message is digitally signed. 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