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Is anyone using this successfully? I suspect the problem is that I use their passkey on my other devices and that switches off name/password authentication everywhere. Not ideal. If this is not resolvable =E2=80=94 if I choose not to downgrade sec= urity on my other devices to recover this =E2=80=94 are there public relay servers a= nywhere? I expect the answer is no but perhaps there is an authentication method that helps keep them from being abused. --=20 Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --000000000000fe1f300646f22401 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have been using google=C2=A0as an SMTP relay with p= ostfix for years with an app password but it seems that is now made obsolet= e? Is anyone using this successfully? I suspect=C2=A0the problem is that I = use their passkey on my other devices and that switches off name/password a= uthentication everywhere. Not ideal. If this is not resolvable =E2=80=94 if= I choose not to downgrade security=C2=A0on my other devices to recover=C2= =A0this =E2=80=94 are there public relay servers anywhere? I expect the ans= wer is no but perhaps there is an authentication method=C2=A0that helps kee= p=C2=A0them from being abused.=C2=A0

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