From nobody Sun Apr 06 14:23:19 2025 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ZVvhk200bz5rw7W for ; Sun, 06 Apr 2025 14:23:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ed1-x52c.google.com (mail-ed1-x52c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::52c]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4ZVvhh6kK4z3SFc for ; Sun, 06 Apr 2025 14:23:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from paulbeard@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b=IogMtkrX; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of paulbeard@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::52c as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=paulbeard@gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-x52c.google.com with SMTP id 4fb4d7f45d1cf-5e5e1a38c1aso4803275a12.2 for ; Sun, 06 Apr 2025 07:23:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1743949411; x=1744554211; darn=freebsd.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject :date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1+18gpY7KxuqNacwkqXPreWWA8j3FvjAqhYrEcDKc1Q=; b=IogMtkrXnHJlRKzC8/4k6RKQN8F4RwqFOt8/MMGrsUJx7HDgaTaY/soGJNsYrCxxWZ jvjAvQCxg1iQ0qDmoTn/AaRMu3gwY6E2FsOMy0OhiCWupe7GNaQT/lQ3yiX5CJ24fXGg HPU00gL91TXxUw4d+M8FRKDNox+COxWJjhsET6B0IC8IGo1xd/jTtiSXOs2rbrw0Ms4z ARNZFOfhEqtkQ6Ipdop7Bord4HO1hpDvqAQM0b2JDRCuPTr7y/cPh3ZnRC2EhwVOxExx EriwNfdsiqv4h2g06u4coW24Raxvqj7kfswHOKQ7CA50u5SV6RDbqzEDqlqjWTD3Jw6H 09rA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1743949411; x=1744554211; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:mime-version:x-gm-message-state :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1+18gpY7KxuqNacwkqXPreWWA8j3FvjAqhYrEcDKc1Q=; b=b2W++QaP4iqk4Rn6Hv8MfdSXYSiTMri+mM6s7uS/OnIm8hIvkN0dVkcWzqkdPSxtQu BZdcf7rNy4GOJYAS1aqWqt1GhEMILYqzJ0233BDVP41xA66w0mB0qyHF/JMliHiuaPb4 PawqIy/WhAjXAMouR9EPuPAoFRFIh1LsUuMyI2VYGFNjnYMRouEDSKNIidQY8al0RXxx QsJOIbcj5ooWuww2CHU6WcvPG9s1jpwwydfOzfQKJibL44dXf9PP6dqXEmfaMdekhfLj 2RK4gGxw99yId0BIgbdXP35+TR/4er5T0Smrn8lnjIyI2VX70m/srjMvJ2WMDMa/eFBW bw0w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxsG1ZFuLYvA7TLlhmX5wEOObbDgTvDQ077yJ6YDgXjzLbNBlQz cc+TQfzKi/S8EgCWiYEdArU41/7w7yru+30o2F7z0za5mMDSwasCAqnoDKhW8dFWto0Ld43nFzX XiJH2sbctSYApMWBmb2aPMOQ1SFDylam6bP4= X-Gm-Gg: ASbGncs3ZPWis2YeYl2/XYp2GgTrRb72gGC/H+oGCYmnJKL82RhrZ7ciMMT+DUla48H fxzTIdkmuvtUHEtlzFwOXbN+tJTa2/DbgsKZIQyTodvl+DGfDI/s2L5ayzVAPr9nLrm7VI33oUJ ar88IbIMsQ7+AkQiLH/9hLkjaX8oE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IE1b/AgJ88ahMMSOB2y4ts0aoO88FvOlNZrLo+R6D1Zvi6SRZ0GF+BJJqMoQE/VNeuw1HaqGJnWa4YPAMYt1Fg= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:969f:b0:ac3:eb29:2aef with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-ac7d198ff61mr843002466b.41.1743949410528; Sun, 06 Apr 2025 07:23:30 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: paul beard Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2025 07:23:19 -0700 X-Gm-Features: ATxdqUEjYz2FfFew9eh7IQgqTissOCA2Ii8ujClYSkBs66t2IfA87Ew_5G8TOnE Message-ID: Subject: ntpd/ntpdate not setting time after upgrade to 14.2 To: FreeBSD-questions Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000001ef58d06321cdd1e" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.47 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.988]; NEURAL_SPAM_LONG(0.51)[0.513]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20230601]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::52c:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4ZVvhh6kK4z3SFc X-Spamd-Bar: -- --0000000000001ef58d06321cdd1e Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I reboot my freebsd system every sunday at 3AM (it runs in a VM on a machine that needs a reboot every so often so I just do that and the router/AP all at once). This was all good under 13.4 but now that I am on 14.2, I find the machine comes up in UTC and stays there until I set the time by hand. I have ntpd and ntpdate both set to "on" in rc.conf, not sure why or which makes more sense. ntpd is running but only sets the time if I run it by hand. I only find this out when a cron job reports it can't overwrite a file (backup from the day before). Apr 5 20:02:19 www ntpd[767]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-seconds.list'): loaded, expire=2025-06-28T00:00:00Z last=2017-01-01T00:00:00Z ofs=37 Apr 5 20:02:29 www ntpd[767]: Clock offset exceeds panic threshold. Apr 5 20:02:29 www ntpd[767]: Set system clock by hand. Apr 6 07:14:05 www ntpd[3425]: ntpd 4.2.8p18-a (1): Starting Apr 6 07:14:05 www ntpd[3425]: Command line: /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid -c /etc/ntp.conf -f /var/db/ntp/ntpd.drift -- Paul Beard / www.paulbeard.org/ --0000000000001ef58d06321cdd1e Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I reboot my freebsd system every sunday at 3AM (it ru= ns in a VM on a machine that needs a reboot every=C2=A0so often=C2=A0so I j= ust do that and the router/AP all at once). This was all good under 13.4 bu= t now that I am on 14.2, I find=C2=A0the machine comes up in UTC and stays = there until I set the time by hand. I have ntpd and ntpdate both set to &qu= ot;on" in rc.conf, not sure why or which makes more sense. ntpd is run= ning but only sets the time if I run it by hand. I only find this out when = a cron job reports it can't overwrite a file (backup from the day befor= e).=C2=A0

Apr =C2=A05 20:02:19= <ntp.notice> www ntpd[767]: leapsecond file ('/var/db/ntpd.leap-= seconds.list'): loaded, expire=3D2025-06-28T00:00:00Z last=3D2017-01-01= T00:00:00Z ofs=3D37
Apr =C2=A05 20:02:29 <ntp.err> www ntpd[767]: = Clock offset exceeds panic threshold.
Apr =C2=A05 20:02:29 <ntp.err&g= t; www ntpd[767]: Set system clock by hand.
Apr =C2=A06 07:14:05 <ntp= .notice> www ntpd[3425]: ntpd 4.2.8p18-a (1): Starting
Apr =C2=A06 07= :14:05 <ntp.notice> www ntpd[3425]: Command line: /usr/sbin/ntpd -p /= var/db/ntp/ntpd.pid -c /etc/ntp.conf -f /var/db/ntp/ntpd.drift
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