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Mader" To: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Docker User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <20230329065659.f4b82fd593b924119a66cfd2@sohara.org> References: <20230329065659.f4b82fd593b924119a66cfd2@sohara.org> Message-ID: <26E38B1E-5596-4AD3-AF5B-368695DE98C7@darktemple.ch> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=----QYJGU9RAPI8905TWXT5GP33F809Y6K Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s073.cyon.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - darktemple.ch X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: s073.cyon.net: authenticated_id: mma@darktemple.ch X-Authenticated-Sender: s073.cyon.net: mma@darktemple.ch X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.10 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.71)[-0.705]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[darktemple.ch:s=default]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[194.126.200.68:from]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[darktemple.ch]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_X_GMSV(0.00)[mma@darktemple.ch]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_X_AS(0.00)[mma@darktemple.ch]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[darktemple.ch:+]; HAS_X_ANTIABUSE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:47302, ipnet:194.126.200.0/24, country:CH]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[194.126.200.68:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PnYtf02z7z3hF6 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N ------QYJGU9RAPI8905TWXT5GP33F809Y6K Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open source=2E It also suppor= ts containers without needing root=2E Or ist that based on the linux emulation layer? Am 29=2E M=C3=A4rz 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith : >On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000 >Hosney Osman wrote: > >> great information for me is Jails and Bhyve alternative for Docker in >> FreeBSD > > This is not the case! > > Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC)=2E > > Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms=2E > > The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and >cbsd=2E None of them provide the layered images approach to composing tha= t >docker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug >and play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your >servers)=2E They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails >(which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers)=2E > >> are there any alternative for kubernetes also > > No - there is nothing else like kubernetes and until recently it >had a hard coded dependency on docker=2E That has now gone and a port of >kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails as containers should be >possible=2E The convenient plug and play distributed application componen= t >library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD may be a starting point (that >would cast bastille into the role that docker plays on Linux for >kubernetes)=2E > >--=20 >Steve O'Hara-Smith > ------QYJGU9RAPI8905TWXT5GP33F809Y6K Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isn't podman in the ports? That's docker, but open= source=2E It also supports containers without needing root=2E

Or is= t that based on the linux emulation layer?


Am 29=2E M=C3=A4rz 2023 07:56:59 MESZ schrieb Steve O'Hara-Smith <= steve@sohara=2Eorg>:
On Tue, 28 Mar 2023 14:40:36 +0000
H=
osney Osman <hosneybinosman@gmail=2Ecom> wrote:

great information for me is Jails and Bh=
yve alternative for Docker in
FreeBSD

	This is not t=
he case!

	Jails are the FreeBSD equivalent of Linux containers (LXC)=
=2E

	Byhve is the FreeBSD native hypervisor, it runs vms=2E

	=
The nearest things to docker are managers like iocage, bastille and
cbsd=
=2E None of them provide the layered images approach to composing that
d=
ocker uses which has led to the massive library of images and the plug
a=
nd play simplicity (which comes at the price of not understanding your
s=
ervers)=2E They tend to use a package based approach to defining jails
(=
which pretty much forces you to know all about your servers)=2E

are there any alternative for =
kubernetes also

No - there is nothing else like kubern= etes and until recently it
had a hard coded dependency on docker=2E That= has now gone and a port of
kubernetes to FreeBSD with support for jails= as containers should be
possible=2E The convenient plug and play distri= buted application component
library is more difficult, but BastilleBSD m= ay be a starting point (that
would cast bastille into the role that dock= er plays on Linux for
kubernetes)=2E

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