From nobody Wed Mar 22 05:28:16 2023 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PhH7r5gh0z3yqxT for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:28:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Received: from h1.out2.mxs.au (h1.out2.mxs.au [110.232.143.236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PhH7r2Zctz3sMg for ; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 05:28:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from smithi@nimnet.asn.au) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au (s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au [103.27.34.4]) by out2.mxs.au (Halon) with ESMTPS id 5f210397-c872-11ed-9cc9-00163c1ebd60; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:28:26 +1100 (AEDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nimnet.asn.au; s=default; h=Message-ID:From:CC:To:Subject: Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To: Date:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=eKSguFlwJuGsKloO4lF6jt1JEagTvAGhQyx+xXRS+KA=; b=C314hw9g4DGpH6+5OKNR29X9ni tBH/0kzUqdwGLSjzZob/tcWyyTTI/Pt96bdtIFrORAuwkyVkWFIQDetpc12rNsayeapbWL1HbzfiU vRYCGINYNogFIMyLHfHQxMge0Mw2Y0t2vlpCW8VjpsCsYT88m4G8g+8IqD/63vgV19PeWjzsw86bX 58A35EPI5SSpYeznBbQoYJJSUfeeaWAPwk/kjcn9koTUx1ZY2WiDx6vKaYobn5vCu8y8fVt7mThLp 5QOTZ1gX8WeQETX3x8kVCYHZsxbtl9mQskNwCpxuU5AfTOM8kX5yDZWl0z0nNTVey4gB/r1AMDAoY m+/hx+2Q==; Received: from [1.129.130.181] (port=50832 helo=Galaxy-J5-Pro) by s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au with esmtpsa (TLS1.2) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1per1O-0020HZ-0u; Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:28:26 +1100 Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2023 16:28:16 +1100 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <20230321192209.giqsnhqbl7ben6vk@beesty.loosely.org> References: <3faa3481-abe3-47cd-f273-2658db42a5bc@gmail.com> <11239785ba0531583f29189b133ceafdcded8aad.camel@blues-softwares.net> <5f1028aadd42bcbd89c62e843fc59798c52a0f36.camel@blues-softwares.net> <9B5F5E1E-555D-4FA8-AFBE-EBBD3A8A7045@nimnet.asn.au> <6eaa6e1f-af45-41f8-a5d7-2f03eb4f456a@freebsd.org> <20230321192209.giqsnhqbl7ben6vk@beesty.loosely.org> List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: List managers [Was: Link usability] To: possessor.assizer305@aceecat.org CC: questions@freebsd.org From: Ian Smith Message-ID: <83596048-58FD-487E-85F0-4A4F15936D33@nimnet.asn.au> X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - nimnet.asn.au X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au: authenticated_id: smithi@nimnet.asn.au X-Authenticated-Sender: s121.syd3.hostingplatform.net.au: smithi@nimnet.asn.au X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PhH7r2Zctz3sMg X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:45638, ipnet:110.232.140.0/22, country:AU] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 22 March 2023 6:22:09 am AEDT, possessor=2Eassizer305@aceecat=2Eorg wrot= e: > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 07:49:11PM +1100, Ian Smith wrote: >=20 > > Ah, right=2E Yet another consequence of the regressive move from > > mailman plus pipermail to mlmmj is loss of clickable links in the > > archived messages=2E Duh! I guess (mark / copy / new tab / paste / go) instead of one click isn't to= o heavy, if it's only now and again =2E=2E=2E > Out of curiosity, what was the rationale for the move? I wasn't there, and have only seen similar comments to Pete Wright's, plus= some issues building both old and new versions with clashing directories (= ono), and non- specific references to security issue/s,=20 > My opinion: > Mailman has its warts but it's ubiquitous and well suited for > a world where almost everything has to be done in the browser > for $REASONS=2E Hopefully the reason wasn't just that a newer version existed and the olde= r one had quit working after xteen years=2E