From nobody Tue Dec 12 20:43:07 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4SqVtt50wYz53DBd for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62b.google.com (mail-ej1-x62b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4SqVtt3HBbz3CZx for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 20:43:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pprocacci@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ej1-x62b.google.com with SMTP id a640c23a62f3a-a1e35c2807fso817785566b.3 for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:43:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1702413797; x=1703018597; darn=freebsd.org; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=nztzPgs+2UIBVLyo7yrKCownOG6+Y9jKPOGbpeDK8RY=; b=eZ93Sw12Ho9kQyRmjuu3sy9jOk0CUNw90cGeFRegn3bCuBjeeU8DaGh/EeR1EukyqG fmlNYik/50kKoWNeEzktvWH4AhtnjaZMGowTgkGlpR2nByjApoBy3y+7N7BTuoGoPCDI DiRiL4v5ZTSdvLlDH8Eza2FMPClK9vQCHD4Jjl3XPP09rkq4MzdXFxbndWJ3/++1a664 DOoDvVabl/hC2q7JX8zUQoKErRgi++nxwKR97sy1hLc+GrvJuprA9FQttW4DSjvR8AJ+ X6CwatSNsrRk1iLrE29gi4sOXO9NvWSJyvq1TmAeUj9P3qzZSsw1pDKoybgR5Ldv/tqM 6FtQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702413797; x=1703018597; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=nztzPgs+2UIBVLyo7yrKCownOG6+Y9jKPOGbpeDK8RY=; b=OPfiwLLTILQnXirrbEnFemxM1pAFVmVbCPaOM3OShvf/VnQDIhwE3plJJ22Aczf3ux lAd9mqTDbRH2+zZwsY/Bbzke0rp41z9G4SgysP5DnFJVZKyBfyOxbQKDq1i5lW6JSbg+ labip0Hcqg6s0GVlk7/ZbADP46UApJRmQzoBa6gDAnPYyfHeh0R1ApiTTp2mtG7+VW1f uZ2PN3aIApMo9drB5B1uirX+v63fkWJu5c8dFD068iCBodpgZclmj7y6EeVkMKoSPeB7 Xthpg2wxJN/7I2Jg1ZRgmKaFyCpPSw0h8bJhrae2ETYzN8AnJDGXFZYqP9OZ6rhDYk0Z j+5Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yx7dcNlbXRPPD73P6fTCa3YYx3zgV5IJpZ4vARlETO8vPpN2GlF b0CITTRLzUChZ3PsOMoT9k+nsS9pIBA7MugE5Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEyuh2KagPz4EEXu1NKuxDyA2GfPO+3LlZ57Q1YRkQQNowxqFN9O/vEgDvG9+umGh4bBJb+E26i3eo7rRgbxgw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:c1e:b0:a19:b513:547b with SMTP id ga30-20020a1709070c1e00b00a19b513547bmr4325318ejc.32.1702413796538; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 12:43:16 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20231212195444.5b2f1b61.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212195639.AF1A17E28322@ary.local> <20231212213146.526bb306.freebsd@edvax.de> <20231212203924.473e7ccbc24b7f4a096d9f5b@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: <20231212203924.473e7ccbc24b7f4a096d9f5b@sohara.org> From: Paul Procacci Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2023 15:43:07 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: DMA, not Sendmail on 14-RELEASE To: "Steve O'Hara-Smith" Cc: Polytropon , Aryeh Friedman , John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000009a7ed7060c5619f8" X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4SqVtt3HBbz3CZx --0000000000009a7ed7060c5619f8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 3:39=E2=80=AFPM Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:31:46 +0100 > Polytropon wrote: > > > Some other things require you > > to jump through hoops and still get suboptimal > > results that can change into real problems with > > the next big system update... > > Be thankful we don't have systemd to contend with. > > -- > Steve O'Hara-Smith > Maybe there is a God after all! ~Paul --=20 __________________ :(){ :|:& };: --0000000000009a7ed7060c5619f8 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Tue, Dec 12, 2023 at 3:39=E2= =80=AFPM Steve O'Hara-Smith <ste= ve@sohara.org> wrote:
On Tue, 12 Dec 2023 21:31:46 +0100
Polytropon <freebs= d@edvax.de> wrote:

> Some other things require you
> to jump through hoops and still get suboptimal
> results that can change into real problems with
> the next big system update...

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Be thankful we don't have systemd to conten= d with.

--
Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org>

Maybe there is a God after = all!

~Paul
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