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Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 15:38:36 UTC
On 2022 May 20, at 00:18, Steve O'Hara-Smith <steve@sohara.org> wrote: > > On Thu, 19 May 2022 23:50:48 -0600 > kremels@kreme.com wrote: > >> On 2022-May-19 23:02, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: >>> On Thu, 19 May 2022 15:06:07 -0600 >>> "@lbutlr" <kremels@kreme.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2022 May 19, at 08:20, Mario Lobo <lobo@bsd.com.br> wrote: >>>>> Man .. I'm old! >>>>> >>>>> I even know where these terms came from. They're typewriter terms . >>>> >>>> Not old enough! They're actaul1y teletype terms and codes! >>> >>> Typewrites had carriage return and line feed levers long before >>> there were teletypes or ASCII. >> >> The codes are teletype codes, not typewriter codes. All you need to do > > "typewriter codes" ? Typewriters are mechanical devices that do not > use codes. The codes are there in ASCII because teletypes needed the same > functions as typewriters. The terms were in use for typewriters decades > before there were teletypes, ASCII or even BCD. They were old when computer > was a job description. Nope. Cottage Return was the name of the handle on the typewriter. Everything else is from teletype machines. There was th "Horizontal tab" on a typewriter, it was just a 'tab' and there was certainly not vertical tab. There was no 'line feed' because you didn't have a term for 'turn the roller by hand'. -- "Esprit de corpse," said the Senior Wrangler. Ridcully glared at him