From nobody Tue Nov 15 23:32:32 2022 X-Original-To: ppc@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NBjC95Fc5z4fcdL for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 23:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Received: from mail.oetec.com (mail.oetec.com [108.160.241.186]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mail.oetec.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NBjC91dyfz3PgR for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 23:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dclarke@blastwave.org) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=blastwave.org header.s=default header.b=KsDwbhPE; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of dclarke@blastwave.org designates 108.160.241.186 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=dclarke@blastwave.org; dmarc=pass (policy=quarantine) header.from=blastwave.org X-Spam-Status: No X-oetec-MailScanner-From: dclarke@blastwave.org X-oetec-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-3.1, required 6, autolearn=not spam, ALL_TRUSTED -1.00, BAYES_00 -1.90, DKIM_SIGNED 0.10, DKIM_VALID -0.10, DKIM_VALID_AU -0.10, DKIM_VALID_EF -0.10, NICE_REPLY_A -0.00, URIBL_BLOCKED 0.00) X-oetec-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-oetec-MailScanner-ID: 2AFNWWev001763 X-oetec-MailScanner-Information: Please contact oetec for more information Received: from [172.16.35.9] (cpeac202e7325b3-cmac202e7325b0.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [99.253.170.241]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.oetec.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-14~deb10u1) with ESMTPSA id 2AFNWWev001763 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:32:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=blastwave.org; s=default; t=1668555153; bh=omAMeXnXF8V26I0iTa/QnHIWoNjTMIUiT4CNhF69+pY=; h=Date:Subject:To:References:From:In-Reply-To:From; b=KsDwbhPEReF4pizUhOnDyjJuBlJ3mROBCJdoVZ2NN6RGzUwNYQEJb84SkkUUWbwVh QAaYyzZTtwsBvOMs0l/0bPVpvu7HJGwCWb/kJxZRMxJMnU/QyKDv1YjJyWkFUS0wBt tEF8VQ86V6YFAq0LNrUA3IxP9nqKQoI598bpuLBJYTlGMqsnBAHNuM5uVLGOJVt2/p 9XY8vroUcBn0w5JEO7yGT3PJN9zywrZBFgssi87l6t7mFKa5bfSk5yL3mzcfmKMxhj gwhlaoZuUP1FUFkr2zq0D0ARpvx0CgBtkvABn39LDxHE4vhmake/6umIOgmEIuzAMb NwtWCAxRmzWCQ== Message-ID: <100f0f1e-1f43-903e-bf8f-7a54925d53cc@blastwave.org> Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2022 18:32:32 -0500 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.13.0 Subject: Re: Boot Loader: OFW network booting support Content-Language: en-US To: ppc@freebsd.org References: From: Dennis Clarke In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.70 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RCVD_DKIM_ARC_DNSWL_MED(-0.50)[]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[blastwave.org,quarantine]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED(-0.20)[108.160.241.186:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+a:c]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[blastwave.org:s=default]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[ppc@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:812, ipnet:108.160.240.0/20, country:CA]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[blastwave.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ppc@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NBjC91dyfz3PgR X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 11/15/22 12:04, Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, Nov 14, 2022, 6:30 PM Alexey Dokuchaev wrote: > >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2022 at 09:34:25AM -0700, Warner Losh wrote: >>> I'd like to drop support for OFW network booting. . . . > Otherwise, I'm going to save myself some time and this feature will be no > more. I'm not going to speculatively waste time for something nobody can > even be bothered to demonstrate still works :) Harsh, yes, I know, but > better to be up-front about it and quietly break it which I'm pretty sure > is what will happen if I don't test the new code. > > Warner > I can only agree. The userbase that would even care about network boot from an Apple PowerMac G5 has to be counted on one hand. The one thing we can never reproduce is "time". Don't waste it. -- Dennis Clarke RISC-V/SPARC/PPC/ARM/CISC UNIX and Linux spoken GreyBeard and suspenders optional