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On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:34:42 AM EST, Warner Losh wrote: =20 =20 I'd like to drop support for OFW network booting. These days, the only OpenFirmware machines are really old Mac G4 and G5 mac= hines. Nothing=C2=A0else can use it (it used to be shared with sparc64 mach= ines). I'm in the process of reworking some of the disk code, which touches the OF= W disk code which would force me to write extra code for OFW since it doesn= 't fit the pattern we have on other architectures=C2=A0very well. So, rather than do a lot of work I can barely test (I might have an old G4 = mac in my dad's old thing), I'm thinking about dropping the support, especi= ally since I don't think it's been used by anybody in a long time. Before I do that, though, I'd see if anyone is actively using it... Warner =20 ------=_Part_2524097_1179342197.1668444155818 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have an old IBM AS/400 Power 5+ machine that uses OFW.  I have tried to network boot it with limited success.  I haven't given up yet.



On Monday, November 14, 2022 at 11:34:42 AM EST, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com> wrote:


I'd like to drop support for OFW network booting.

These days, the only OpenFirmware machines are really old Mac G4 and G5 machines. Nothing else can use it (it used to be shared with sparc64 machines).

I'm in the process of reworking some of the disk code, which touches the OFW disk code which would force me to write extra code for OFW since it doesn't fit the pattern we have on other architectures very well.

So, rather than do a lot of work I can barely test (I might have an old G4 mac in my dad's old thing), I'm thinking about dropping the support, especially since I don't think it's been used by anybody in a long time.

Before I do that, though, I'd see if anyone is actively using it...

Warner
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