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[2603:6000:a401:3a00:223:24ff:fe37:c4d7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d1sm4179562qti.72.2021.05.28.13.36.42 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 28 May 2021 13:36:42 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: CFD: the future of ports on powerpc64/12 and powerpc64/11 To: ppc@freebsd.org References: <2110482776.341373.1622226818173@privateemail.com> From: Jason Bacon Message-ID: <42bbd61e-2fdd-c292-e800-e98ae534e60e@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 28 May 2021 15:36:41 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.10.2 List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the PowerPC List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ppc List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ppc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2110482776.341373.1622226818173@privateemail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4FsGgc6S4rz4jgZ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=X1/3n1aE; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bacon4000@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::736 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bacon4000@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::736:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.998]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[ppc@freebsd.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::736:from:127.0.2.255]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::736:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[ppc] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 5/28/21 1:33 PM, linimon@portsmon.org linimon@portsmon.org wrote: > [attempting re-send from a properly subscribed-to address.] > > For a long time I have been attempting to keep ports building on > powerpc64/12. This, along with mips*/12, is still stuck on having > GCC4.2.1 in base. (Of course, in 13/14, we are based on clang.) > > (I have not even looked at the state of ports on 11 in over a year.) > > Although most of the individual problems are not that hard to fix or > work around, the fact is that I have become overwhelmed by the number > of them. This is both for existing ports where updates switch to taking > advantage of c11 or c++11 (or later) features, but, most notably, for > the number of new ports added every week. > > The problems noticed in the last 1-2 months are: > > math/openblas (I am told there is an upstream fix) > math/mpdecimal (affects lang/python* but it can be worked around) > math/clp > devel/indi > devel/py-gobject3 (also affects python) > print/libraqm > > tl;dr: I intend to stop working on ports testing on powerpc64/12. > > (fwiw, pkubaj@ has already moved on to 13.) > > If anyone wants to pick this task up, please contact me. But at > this point it is simply taking too much of my time, on which I > already have demands I cannot fulfill. > > mcl > I'm all for reallocating scarce and valuable man-hours to more sustainable and marketable products. Now that we have a modern clang-based powerpc platform, I see very little reason to continue sinking time into legacy tier-2 platforms based on an antiquated compiler. -- Earth is a beta site.