Re: [HEADSUP] Deprecation of the ftp support in pkg

From: Alexander Leidinger <>
Date: Mon, 24 Jan 2022 07:06:07 UTC
Quoting "Patrick M. Hausen" <> (from Sun, 23 Jan 2022  
19:19:57 +0100):

>> Am 22.01.2022 um 09:35 schrieb Chris <>:
>> I find it's less "housekeeping" to use ftp(1) setup through  
>> inetd(8) for pkg repos, than
>> via ssh.
> I understand the appeal of FTP.
> Maybe this discussion is focusing on the wrong topic. Perhaps
> we should consider including a light weight way to serve HTTP(S)
> in base? Like Lighttpd, which as far as I know comes with a BSD
> 3-clause equivalent license.
> But then the general tendency has been to remove network services
> from base rather than introduce them. Like e.g. BIND.
> So I really have no idea what the general opinion is, just wanted
> to throw in that IMHO HTTPS is the best protocol to the task and
> if some way to serve that could be included in base, I for one would
> appreciate that.

Personally I think that a http(s) server is not needed in base, as  
long as we don't need it for something in base (and I wouldn't mind if  
ftpd would get removed from base for the same reason). Installing a  
package is easy enough (no matter if for http or ftp).

I think in this thread it was mentioned that someone didn't want to  
install 3rd party software for this. I still can't wrap my head around  
that part...:
  - we talk about a tool which is used to exclusively install 3rd  
party software (pkg)
  - this tool itself is installed like a 3rd party software  
(package/port, the system-pkg is only a bootstrap)
  - and the complete context is serving 3rd party software from a tool  
which builds 3rd party software locally (poudriere) or at least a  
downloaded subset from FreeBSD
  - poudriere is also not in the base system but installed like a 3rd  
party software
  - maintaining a list of software you are interested in (be it for  
poudriere or for automated downloads of FreeBSD packages into a local  
repo) seems more effort to me, than setting up one more 3rd party  
software for local file distribution

I wanted to propose here to include config snippeds for  
apache/nginx/thttp for such an use-case to decrease the configuration  
burden, but this seems to be already the case (at least for  
nginx/apache). I can't see within 30sec any docs about this in the  
poudriere wiki, so maybe adding a prominent pointer to it there might  
be an improvement?


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