From nobody Wed Dec 14 03:05:19 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-ports@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4NX0bj4HyKz4kZXw for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Received: from mx5.roble.com (mx5.roble.com [209.237.23.5]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_CHACHA20_POLY1305_SHA256 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA512 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mx5.roble.com", Issuer "mx5.roble.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4NX0bj2MzGz4KNJ for ; Wed, 14 Dec 2022 03:05:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from marquis@roble.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from roble.com (roble.com [209.237.23.50]) by mx5.roble.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AFCA14BA6; Tue, 13 Dec 2022 19:05:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=roble.com; s=rs060402; t=1670987119; bh=lQwK1SaeTZAVOYKF1uThzeQW16s36/IvaNIYBwt4XR4=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=WkVQL70oIpqqYvwW6m/ZOaonTpT4V9KoE1px5TMXV3bYr+K9oiJavXOVUed9K6vSU 4WRajOum7DVpsb0qEirH2BtWRQsrWkUwhY+5QJYS2zwGhcYFu0FxoWTU2N0G5ss3TV 3CakwEFAst5PPyGhC47FsYr3YBRz5e3CWaKqYDRE= Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2022 19:05:19 -0800 (PST) From: Roger Marquis To: Xin LI cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: lang/rust is super slow to buildZ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <39n96570-44r2-opnp-512n-po85597n6qn6@mx.roble.com> List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-ports List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4NX0bj2MzGz4KNJ X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:17403, ipnet:209.237.0.0/18, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 13 Dec 2022, Xin LI wrote: > Using prebuilt binaries is not necessarily compromising security when done > right. I think to ensure safety of these prebuilt binaries, we need to > invest in e.g. making package builds reproducible (so an independent third > party can audit and validate that the binaries are actually built from the > source that they claimed to be when they want), ensure that the builders > are safe, and sign the packages on the builders. Reproducable builds, a packaged base and paid staff to maintain the vuxml db (and perhaps support for containerd and wakeonlan) would go a _long_ way towards getting FreeBSD back onto the short list of popular server operating systems. Alas, none of these seems to be a priority for the Board. Roger Marquis