Re: [HEADS UP] stable/15: new base packages for PAM, zstd

On 4/22/26 14:18, Lexi Winter wrote:
> Anton Shterenlikht wrote in <aeh6ddAuDClL4YFn@cmplx.uk>:
>> On Tue, Apr 21, 2026 at 12:52:43PM -0700, Mark Millard wrote:
>>> On 4/21/26 08:52, Anton Shterenlikht wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Apr 07, 2026 at 12:30:50PM +0100, Lexi Winter wrote:
>>>> I recently upgraded Lenovo T480 laptop from some 14.x relase to 15.0-RELEASE-p4.
>>>> I'm still figuring out the use of pkg for base upgrades.

The above is not explicit about if the 14.x was pkgbase already or not.

FYI for Anton:
14.*-RELELASE pkgbase is not officially Release Engineering/Security
supported the way 15.0 pkgbase is, by the way. 14.* has not been updated
to match what 15.0 did to have such pkgbase support. 14.x's pkgbase ->
15.0 pkgbase upgrade sequence is somewhat special because of that --and
not fully documented.

>>>>
>>>> For a few weeks all was working more or less well (some unexpected
>>>> reboots, but I had no time to dig into that).
>>>>
>>>> After reading your mail, I typed the pkg query command you suggested,
>>>> which returned nothing.
>>>> I then did "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal".
>>>> When that completed, I realised that my user is gone....
>>>>
>>>> Looking at /etc/passwd and /etc/master.passwd I see that indeed
>>>> my user is not there anymore.
>>>
>>> Did you end up with the likes of:
>>>
>>> /etc/passwd.pkgsave
>>> /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave
>>
>> Yes, I have /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave
>>
>> So what happened?
>> Is it expected that "pkg install FreeBSD-set-minimal"
>> should erase all ordinary users from /etc/master.passwd
>> and save the original file as /etc/master.passwd.pkgsave?
>  
> no, something has gone wrong here.
> 
> how did you install this system?
> 
> /etc/master.passwd is in the FreeBSD-runtime package, which must always
> be installed on a pkgbase system.  the only reason 'pkg upgrade' would
> overwrite it with a pristine copy is if you somehow didn't have that
> package installed, but if that was the case, the system would already
> be completely non-functional.

A 14.x FreeBSD-runtime package would be replaced by a 15.0-RELEASE-p4
package would it not (if that pkgbase -> pkgbase upgrade is the type of
upgrade that was done)? Would that produce a .pkgsave file for the
/etc/master.passwd (given the RE-unsupported nature of 14.* pkgbase)?

> 
> the only way i can imagine this happening if you had a non-pkgbase
> system, then installed FreeBSD-runtime (e.g., as a dependency of
> FreeBSD-set-minimal), but this should not be possible in a normal
> non-pkgbase installation since the FreeBSD-base repository won't
> be enabled.


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