Re: FreeBSD15.0 stable pkgbase

Hello Mark,

thank you for your advices. I have only tried
the FreeBSD-base, because the freebsd-update
will be going in the future. When I set up the FreeBSD15.0
with repo in:

/usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf

I installed the packages with pkg install `cat ./installed_packages`
in order to get the programmes, which I have in RELEASE 14.0. Or is it
not the right way to get a System with the same installed packages as before
for "pkgbase" repo?
I only did the command : pkg install -r FreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*'
get to know what happened.

I observed, that some FreeBSD-* snap files need a lot time
to be installed!!!
Is it that what us awaiting with pkgbase? It could be a cause to
change to another OS.

Thanks for your time
Manfred


On 10/25/25 19:22, Mark Millard wrote:
> Manfred Koch <md-koch_at_t-online.de> wrote on
> Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 13:04:47 UTC :
>
>> I have round about 450 packages installed (without so called FreeBSD-
>> snap files)
>> Then I typed the command pkg install -r FreeBSD-base -g 'FreeBSD-*'
>> and the FreeBSD- snap files were installed.
>> pkg info | wc -l shows me now round about 900 installed packaged.
>> I did try to get rid of the none snap files with pkg delete -af
>> afterwards the
>> all files were deleted, the snap files too. The system was unusable.
>>
>> Don't know what the FreeBSD- snap files are.
>> Don't know about experimental install.
>> Excuse me the stupid asks.
>>
>> Can you give me some advices to this subject. How can I remove with "pkg
>> delete" only the right packages.
>
> You do not have to use the FreeBSD-base repository (i.e., the repository
> that contains the pkgbase packages, also called base packages) at all:
> using pkgbase is not a requirement. The pkgbase packages are one way of
> installing and updating FreeBSD --but are not the only way.
>
> FYI: The FreeBSD-*.pkg files from the FreeBSD-base repository are the
> pkgbase/base packages for possibly installing/updating FreeBSD.
>
> You may want to also have a file like:
>
> /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSDbase.conf
>
> that contains a line like:
>
> FreeBSD-base: { enabled: no }
>
> (I tried to pick a file name that would not conflict with some other
> files that might be automatically put in place yet still be suggestive
> of what it is related to. It may not be the best of choices. Hopefully
> it would be applied after any others that reference FreeBSD-base .)
>
> If FreeBSD-base is disabled (or not defined) the command:
>
> # pkg repositories -e
>
> will not list FreeBSD-base. Otherise it will. That can provide
> a cross check on if it is enabled or not.
>
> ("repos" is a unique prefix of "repositories" that can be used
> but "repo" is a distinct command.)
>
> The non-pkgbase vs. pkgbase ways of installing and updating FreeBSD
> should not be mixed. It is probably best to avoid needing to do a
> conversion later. As far as I know, the only official conversion
> technique is from non-pkgbase to pkgbase. But you might want to
> avoid that for now.
>
> If you use a non-pkgbase FreeBSD installation with FreeBSD-base
> disabled ( i.e. enabled: no ) or not defined, things will continue
> to work as they did historically. (I suggest avoiding both
> "pkg delete -af" and "pkg delete -y -a". I suggest reviewing the
> list displayed for "pkg delete -a". Yes, even though the list can
> be hundreds of lines long or longer. For a pkgbase FreeBSD
> installation with FreeBSD-base enabled (so it shows FreeBSD-*
> packages), answering Yes would probably never be the right thing to
> do for "pkg delete -a" being involved.)
>
> ===
> Mark Millard
> marklmi at yahoo.com
>
>