Re: PKGBASE upgrade from ALPHAxx to BETAxx [FreeBSD-base with enable: no planned]

On Oct 19, 2025, at 15:00, Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Colin Percival <cperciva_at_tarsnap.com> wrote on
> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2025 18:04:51 UTC :
> 
>> On 10/16/25 10:49, Patrick M. Hausen wrote:
>>>> Am 16.10.2025 um 19:44 schrieb Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>:
>>>> To my knowledge, /etc/pkg/ only has files that are expected to
>>>> apply to all systems, no matter how installed/updated. Also,
>>>> the files in /etc/pkg/ are expected to not be edited. The
>>>> overriding text goes in files in /usr/local/etc/pkg/respos/
>>>> instead. (Technically such are conventions, not requirements,
>>>> but they fit with FreeBSD update processes in a particular way.)
>>> 
>>> I follow that argument.
>>> 
>>> But isn't pkgbase supposed to be the new normal starting with 15.0?
>>> 
>>> Sorry for the noise if I confused that. Then it will land in /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf in 16?
>> 
>> I'm planning on putting a "FreeBSD-base" repository configuration into
>> /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf in 15. It will be disabled by default, in order
>> to avoid "pkg delete -af" problems, but "pkg upgrade -r FreeBSD-base"
>> should work out of the box.
> 
> One thing I'll note about having a mix of enabled and
> disabled repositories, with both types having installed
> packages: pkg version is always going to classify some
> of the installed packages as orphaned. For reference:
> 
> # pkg version -r REPONAME . . .
> 
> classifies everything installed from some other repository
> as orphaned, no matter if that repository is enabled or
> not.
> 
> For a pkgbase context with FreeBSD-base not enabled . . .
> 
> # pkg version . . .
> 
> (no REPONAME) will classify everything installed from
> FreeBSD-base as orphaned because it is not enabled.

Turns out that pkg fetch will only fetch from enabled
repositories. (This is consistent with the wording of
the pkg-fetch man page.) So, with FreeBSD-base not
enabled, 

# pkg fetch -r FreeBSD-base . . .

would not fetch anything.


The man pages for pkg version and pkg fetch might need
some explicit notes about such overall consequences.


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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com