Re: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build)

On Sep 26, 2025, at 01:01, Ronald Klop <ronald-lists@klop.ws> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anybody know on what machine the new 15arm64 builds will be running? As that will give another long running build on these machines which are already under pressure. I really hope there will be a new machine available for this.


Tier 1 requires (quoting):

    • Official binary packages for third party software will be
provided by the ports team. For embedded architectures, these
packages may be cross-built from a different architecture.

    • Dedicated hardware in one of the FreeBSD clusters for
package building (either natively or via qemu-user).

    • Developers should be able to build packages on commonly
available, non-embedded Tier 1 systems. This can mean either
native builds if non-embedded systems are commonly available
for the platform in question, or it can mean cross-builds 
hosted on some other Tier 1 architecture.


Tier 2 does not. But (quoting):

    • The ports infrastructure should include basic support
for Tier 2 architectures sufficient to support building ports
and packages. This includes support for basic packages such
as ports-mgmt/pkg, but there is no guarantee that arbitrary
ports will be buildable or functional.

    • Tier 2 platforms should be self-hosting either via the
in-tree toolchain or an external toolchain. If an external
toolchain is required, official binary packages for an external
toolchain will be provided.


So: no claim of Official binary packages for general 3rd party
software.


armv7 is Tier 2 for All Supported Platforms (13.*, 14.*, and
upcoming 15.*). Technically FreeBSD could choose to not do as
many types (or any types) of armv7 builds for a time. Or they
could go back to trying to use qemu on amd64 for targeting armv7
for a time for at least some types of builds. (As I remember,
the qemu armv6 builds were only able to build a few thousand
ports towards the end of the armv6 official builds time frame.)
Or adding new builder machines. Or just adding to the work load
on the existing builder machines, still doing some or all of
the armv7 builds.

It will be interesting to see what is done.

Mark

> Regards,
> Ronald.
> 
> Van: Mark Millard <marklmi@yahoo.com>
> Datum: vrijdag, 26 september 2025 07:48
> Aan: FreeBSD-pkg@freebsd.org
> Onderwerp: ampere2 and 15.0-PRERELEASE with pkg 2.2.2 for main-arm64 and main-armv7 : the last build is almost done (It is a main-armv7 build)
> The port-package builds are done and ampere2 is doing the
> "clean_restricted:" and "pkgrepo:" sorts of final stages
> before distribution servers around the world are updated.
> 
> The next build by ampere2 should be based on pkg 2.3.1
> (or later) and take less time, even if the number of
> port-package builds is the same.
> 
> Hopefully the jail worlds will be updated to 160000+
> based before the next build starts.
> 


  
 
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Mark Millard
marklmi at yahoo.com