Re: {* 05.00 *}Re: Desperate with 870 QVO and ZFS

From: Jan Bramkamp <crest_at_rlwinm.de>
Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2022 21:19:22 UTC
On 06.04.22 22:43, mike tancsa wrote:
> On 4/6/2022 4:18 PM, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
>> On Wed, 6 Apr 2022, egoitz@ramattack.net wrote:
>>>>
>>>> WE DON'T USE COMPRESSION AS IT'S NOT SET BY DEFAULT. SOME PEOPLE 
>>>> SAY YOU SHOULD HAVE IT ENABLED.... BUT.... JUST FOR AVOID HAVING 
>>>> SOME DATA COMPRESSED SOME OTHER NOT (IN CASE YOU ENABLE AND LATER 
>>>> DISABLE) AND FINALLY FOR AVOID ACCESSING TO INFORMATION WITH 
>>>> DIFFERENT CPU COSTS OF HANDLING... WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED COMPRESSION....
>>
>> There seems to be a problem with your caps-lock key.
>>
>> Since it seems that you said that you are using maildir for your mail 
>> server, it is likely very useful if you do enable even rather mild 
>> compression (e.g. lz4) since this will reduce the write work-load and 
>> even short files will be stored more efficiently.
>>
> FYI, a couple of our big zfs  mailspools sees a 1.24x and 1.23x 
> compress ratio with lz4.  We use Maildir format as well.  They are not 
> RELENG_13 so not sure how zstd would fair.
I've found that Dovecot's mdbox format compresses a lot better than 
Maildir (or sdbox), because it stores multiple messages per file 
resulting in files large enough to contain enough exploitable reduncancy 
to compress down to the next smaller blocksize. In a corporate or 
education environment where users tend to send the same medium to large 
attachments multiple times to multiple recipients on the same server 
Dovecot's single instance storage is a game changer. It reduced my IMAP 
storage requirements by a *factor* of 4.7 which allowed me to get rid of 
spinning disks for the mail servers instead of playing losing games with 
hybrid storage. Dovecot also supports zlib compression in the 
application instead of punting it to the file system. I don't know if 
Cyrus IMAP offers similar features, but if it does I would recommend 
evaluating them instead of compressing or deduplicating at the file 
system level.