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MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-net]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.64.32:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 2022-Feb-17, at 00:02, Mark Millard wrote: > On 2022-Feb-16, at 15:18, bob prohaska wrote: >=20 >> [changed subject to more clearly reflect the symptoms] >>=20 >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2022 at 09:59:23PM -0800, Mark Millard wrote: >>>>>>> Since I have a context working based on the kernel in: >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> = https://artifact.ci.freebsd.org/snapshot/stable-13/371633ece3ae88e3b3d7a02= 8c372d4ac4f72b503/arm64/aarch64/kernel.txz >>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>> I recommend that you try that exact same kernel in your >>>>>>> stable/13 context. I recommend renaming the existing >>>>>>> /boot/kernel before expanding the kernel.txz into / and >>>>>>> so causing a new /boot/kernel/ to be filled in. >>>=20 >>=20 >> It looks like the kernel isn't an obvious culprit: Versions >> from late October to a few days ago all behave the same way. >>=20 >> Even when booted single-user, with the ue0 device brought up >> by hand, only about 1% of incoming pings are answered. That >> figure rises to a little over 50% when there's an outgoing ping >> process (both running a 1/seccond). Destination of the ping >> does not seem to matter, an unused IP seems to work fine.=20 >>=20 >> AIUI, nothing of userland apart from a shell and the ping >> process will be running under those circumstances. Is this >> correct?=20 >>=20 >> Might the trouble be inherited from the boot files? I've left >> them alone since the machine does boot and updating them=20 >> isn't automated. Right now the machine boots from microSD >> and then runs bootcmd_usb0. >>=20 >> One oddity noticed during the kernel-swapping experiments >> is that at the loader prompt some kernel names don't seem >> to be recognized. If I type kernel or kernel.old it's >> loaded immediately. If I type kernel.no-bpf which is one >> I built, booted using the name kernel and then saved with >> the name kernel.no-bpf it can't be found, even though it's >> visible via ls at the OK prompt. Might - be a prohibited >> or priviledged character to the loader? Names like >> kernel.20220214 are likewise not recognized, even though >> they're visible using ls. There might be a name length restriction on the directory name that contains the kernel files? I know I used to have problems on old PowerMacs and got in the habit of using only short names. (So I've not challenged the assumption in a long time.) >> For lack of immediately better ideas I've started stress2 >> running in single-user mode to see if anything of interest >> results. The following are now available for experiments with microsd card boot media for testing: main [so: 14]: = http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/14.0/FreeBSD-14.0= -CURRENT-arm64-aarch64-RPI-20220224-45c23c2608e-253384.img.xz stable/13 as 13.1-PRERELEASE (no releng/13.1 branch yet): = http://ftp3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/ISO-IMAGES/13.1/FreeBSD-13.1= -PRERELEASE-arm64-aarch64-RPI-20220224-9134a398506-249729.img.xz Can you repeat the problem with either of these as your boot media content? Which one(s)? =3D=3D=3D Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com