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charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.86 on 64.7.153.18 X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.39 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f3e0::/32]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW(-0.10)[199.212.134.19:received]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; XM_UA_NO_VERSION(0.01)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11647, ipnet:2607:f3e0::/32, country:CA]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[mike]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sentex.net]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TwdRk1G45z4bSC On 3/14/2024 3:48 PM, Frank Leonhardt wrote: > "CAM status: SCSI Status Error" suggests to me that the drive was just too busy when asked. I'm not saying it's nothing to worry about, but neither am I saying it is. Given enough of them it does cause checksum errors on the test pool unfortunately.  Could a buggy TRIM play a role here too ? I noticed a commit the other day for a Segate SSD that had a broken NCQ TRIM. Could these units suffer from that ? https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?h=stable/14&id=47fff7407c22c2c4b36b4f9f27ddfa70bb8f3fee Is there a way to turn that off via camcontrol ? Or perhaps instrument some other settings ?  I am not wedded to this hardware, but it would be good to know if they can be made workable without too much effort. kern.cam.da.2.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.2.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.6.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.6.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.0.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.0.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.8.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.8.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.3.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.3.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.7.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.7.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.5.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.5.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.4.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.4.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.da.1.delete_max: 17179607040 kern.cam.da.1.delete_method: ATA_TRIM kern.cam.ada.0.delete_method: DSM_TRIM  # camcontrol iden da3 pass3: ACS-4 ATA SATA 3.x device pass3: 600.000MB/s transfers, Command Queueing Enabled protocol              ACS-4 ATA SATA 3.x device model          WD Blue SA510 2.5 1000GB firmware revision     52046100 serial number         23261Y800771 WWN                   5001b448bf6521a5 additional product id cylinders             16383 heads                 16 sectors/track         63 sector size           logical 512, physical 512, offset 0 LBA supported         268435455 sectors LBA48 supported       1953525168 sectors PIO supported         PIO4 DMA supported         WDMA2 UDMA6 media RPM             non-rotating Zoned-Device Commands no Feature                      Support  Enabled   Value Vendor read ahead                     yes      yes write cache                    yes      yes flush cache                    yes      yes Native Command Queuing (NCQ)   yes              32 tags NCQ Priority Information       no NCQ Non-Data Command           no NCQ Streaming                  no Receive & Send FPDMA Queued    no NCQ Autosense                  no SMART                          yes      yes security                       yes      no power management               yes      yes microcode download             yes      yes advanced power management      yes      no      0/0x00 automatic acoustic management  no       no media status notification      no       no power-up in Standby            no       no write-read-verify              no       no unload                         no       no general purpose logging        yes      yes free-fall                      no       no sense data reporting           no       no extended power conditions      no       no device statistics notification no       no Data Set Management (DSM/TRIM) yes DSM - max 512byte blocks       yes              8 DSM - deterministic read       yes              any value Trusted Computing              no encrypts all user data         no Sanitize                       yes              block, Sanitize - commands allowed    yes Sanitize - antifreeze lock     yes Host Protected Area (HPA)      no Accessible Max Address Config  yes      no 1953525168/1953525168