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[37.110.95.35]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 2adb3069b0e04-549441743b9sm1554131e87.28.2025.03.04.02.34.17 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 04 Mar 2025 02:34:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2025 13:34:15 +0300 From: Vadim Goncharov To: paige@paige.bio Cc: Pedro Giffuni , hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: LLM and file systems (was Re: Porting BeFS to FreeBSD for GSoC2025) Message-ID: <20250304133415.73c544f4@nuclight.lan> In-Reply-To: <3833F097-C8A6-4F06-8F81-CA919B291FBF@paige.bio> References: <773517072.6945384.1741058461093@mail.yahoo.com> <3833F097-C8A6-4F06-8F81-CA919B291FBF@paige.bio> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.21.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd13.4) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Z6X9T2Bnhz3NWj X-Spamd-Bar: ---- On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 20:51:11 -0800 paige@paige.bio wrote: > Your guess is pretty inaccurate; Anthropic doesn=E2=80=99t provide any gu= idelines > for this code and as far as legally what is derived work the law is pretty > obtuse and and it=E2=80=99s kind of whatever people are in the mood to sa= y; It's not obtuse, it's perfectly right. Especially when you acknowledge yourself that it is not *you* who wrote the code but LLM - it will be pretty easy for any lawyer. So Project can't take such risks. > there=E2=80=99s no basis of meaningful science behind that and they could= take It is, and it is pretty clear ... > something that you honestly did write yourself and as long as they can > convince a jury that you stole it then that=E2=80=99s all that matters. ...because, for human, it is doubtful whether it was stolen or being written just similar, but for LLM, there is no doubt: it *is* derived from training dataset, it's just difficult to determine which parts were recombinated. --=20 WBR, @nuclight