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[209.85.219.173]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 00721157ae682-6fb2ac71c0bsm1436587b3.120.2025.02.12.05.26.36 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 12 Feb 2025 05:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-yb1-f173.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e46ebe19368so5320454276.0 for ; Wed, 12 Feb 2025 05:26:36 -0800 (PST) X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCUvx5kRKu21JZv8qRTsEaxKz5ZAAtlHQbQ35HmrlNNUIgcigMCZO+nD1rYl43LAh1hF/Xjw4wzArBNoa/lTee8=@freebsd.org X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:1b0b:b0:e58:c61:ef0 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e5d9f11a03bmr3111344276.21.1739366796037; Wed, 12 Feb 2025 05:26:36 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <83C23D68-8C78-40E8-B6DA-DE5B4ADAB515.ref@yahoo.com> <83C23D68-8C78-40E8-B6DA-DE5B4ADAB515@yahoo.com> <202502120857.51C8vrY9072077@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202502120857.51C8vrY9072077@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Tomek CEDRO Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2025 14:26:24 +0100 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-Gm-Features: AWEUYZm5uw3LnLUb1gxI2-bQc7fKpeUNztuJGRc3tuMzxsdsbh_QRcAmoK9Bm6I Message-ID: Subject: Re: First impressions: Lenovo T14s with Qualcomm Snapdragon ARM64 CPU [a "Worldstone" M4 MAX comparison] To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: Mark Millard , freebsd-hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YtJxT6LWsz3r0w X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US] On Wed, Feb 12, 2025 at 9:58=E2=80=AFAM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > -------- > Mark Millard writes: > > > I just did an experiment on a MacBook Pro M4 MAX [=E2=80=A6] > > There's no two ways about it: Apple's Mx CPUs absolutely rock, > and seem to be way ahead of everybody else in both electrical > and compute power. Yup, some time ago I bought MacStudio, just for compilation, cheapest version with 12 core M2Max CPU and 32GB RAM, and it blows socks off, its 2..4 faster than my PC workstation.. but I am aware that it will be trashed in ~5 years due to missing system updates like it happened with my previous Apple hardware that now I try to avoid :-) I am considering upgrade of my PC soon where I run bare metal FreeBSD to AMD RYZEN 9 9950X.. it seems parameters are comparable to M4 Max 16-core and a ~50% better than M2 Max 12-core, but for 2..5x smaller price and I can give even more RAM (i.e. 196GB) to speed up build in ramdisk :-) https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m2-max-vs-amd-ryzen-9-9950x https://nanoreview.net/en/cpu-compare/apple-m4-max-16-core-vs-amd-ryzen-9-9= 950x Not sure however how well this setup will work with FreeBSD 14.2-RELEASE it seems not all onboard peripherals are yet supported :-( https://bsd-hardware.info/?probe=3D4edaabd936 --=20 CeDeROM, SQ7MHZ, http://www.tomek.cedro.info