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logging-data="26147"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@citylink.dinoex.sub.org" User-Agent: slrn/1.0.3 (FreeBSD) To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Milter: Spamilter (Reciever: uucp.dinoex.org; Sender-ip: 0:0:2a0b:f840::; Sender-helo: uucp.dinoex.org;) X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.6.4 (uucp.dinoex.org [IPv6:2a0b:f840:0:0:0:0:0:12]); Mon, 03 Feb 2025 17:27:10 +0100 (CET) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.90 / 15.00]; ARC_ALLOW(-1.00)[uucp.dinoex.org:s=M20221114:i=1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.995]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.96)[-0.961]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.95)[-0.947]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org,li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; HAS_XAW(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:205376, ipnet:2a0b:f840::/32, country:DE]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[pmc@citylink.dinoex.sub.org,li-fbsd@citylink.dinoex.sub.org]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sub.org]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[] X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4YmsNh1H3Mz3j3K List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org On 2025-01-23, Bertrand Petit wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2025 at 08:24:08AM +0000, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: >> >> Isn't that program already horrible and complex enough, in terms >> of source code, manual page and command line options ? Thanks for speaking it out. I already moved all my bridges and guests and virtuals to netgraph, where I can find them again. It's much nicer to have a separate plane of existance where one can put things together independent from the ifconfig moloch. > And buggy, see [1]. Reported Oct. 2021 and still present. Ups, is that a bug? I got used to the scans sometimes either returning nothing or not returning at all. The link itself now functioning, I thought this an acceptable tradeoff. cheerio, PMc