From nobody Sat Sep 14 01:16:08 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X5Ctf0frhz5WYJd for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:16:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Received: from udns.ultimatedns.net (udns.ultimatedns.net [24.113.41.81]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "ultimatedns.net", Issuer "R10" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X5Ctd2xkDz4swh for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2024 01:16:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=ultimatedns.net header.s=mx99 header.b="N/Ic2ceW"; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bsd-lists@bsdforge.com designates 24.113.41.81 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Received: from ultimatedns.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by udns.ultimatedns.net (8.16.1/8.16.1) with ESMTP id 48E1G9W4041661; Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:16:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsd-lists@bsdforge.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=ultimatedns.net; s=mx99; t=1726276575; x=1726277175; r=y; bh=hzAbq1xc+1dH2cDpx0LscKLmIiFEcg7X6jG4N30zZB8=; h=Date:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References; b=N/Ic2ceWyKL3GYXaoQPh/72OZw//aRVnZHnQ3UUNpv3Y0OVzF3C3S7oUYWpdPWBdC b0ai2ttzQ4QMjB1uGmQLj49GotZpvwWAhMTmzCdFnNfLvbbFsE5LkZSYuT+vuAJtkE SyqPlWxefxQdCWFRD9vSiyVn7wduBQ92qtUGc0BvDTggQamSniI/S8xfKzM7DRwVnp fNlNkQZMWdTSn+GwVhetn6EageNThTODtACC/480/ijtWb49mpDnsgey6rISpQ0+ru tJY7PbU7xx7bkmh03FNLj24UFHJYobs6xXP5tvAEtAXtFAjKxjqWgKbvZc3DVi/cWY AHtYLVB5DB/PQ== List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2024 18:16:08 -0700 From: Chris To: void Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM) In-Reply-To: <3845d980-7160-4819-82a4-db2281828c8c@app.fastmail.com> References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <3845d980-7160-4819-82a4-db2281828c8c@app.fastmail.com> User-Agent: UDNSMS/17.0 Message-ID: X-Sender: bsd-lists@bsdforge.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spamd-Bar: / X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=multimap; Matched map: local_wl_ip X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.40 / 15.00]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:24.113.41.81/29]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[ultimatedns.net:s=mx99]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:11404, ipnet:24.113.0.0/16, country:US]; local_wl_ip(0.00)[24.113.41.81]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[ultimatedns.net:+]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[f-m.fm] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X5Ctd2xkDz4swh On 2024-09-08 15:30, void wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, 3 Sep 2024, at 16:32, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > >> A FreeBSD system with no installed ports is a rarity today. > > I have 3 such systems. There may be more people running plain systems than > you think. ... > FreeBSD as OS is in that sense incomplete (again IMO). > Why isn't got or git@tiny in base. We used to have svnlite. > > [1] If freebsd goes entirely to pkgbase, would it then really be an OS or > just a distro? (eg 'linux is a kernel') I'm just going to respond to this last bit... It wouldn't be a "distro" in the sense of Linux, as Linux is only a kernel. Whereas (Free)BSD is a complete system. P.S. I know this reply comes late; but I'm catching up on email. :( --Chris