From nobody Thu Sep 12 20:32:24 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X4Tdd5cphz5Wk8m for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk1-f182.google.com (mail-vk1-f182.google.com [209.85.221.182]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X4Tdd3WN4z43P1 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2024 20:32:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from asomers@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-vk1-f182.google.com with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-502b405abb1so60236e0c.1 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:32:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726173156; x=1726777956; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=JG4LjArR2UkE2x0B2rukOBlYqyLDASdbKbY0yLnFbv4=; b=vR0/LiFQmH+XMS03ctbSYARo9vRQY7744FJ8utxNwma61q1skaXMlbWX1Ll07pA+FL WVVQRZT424DNr3Z+ym0nZfEr5nqjHxfp4CxSrWfUdiuDo7owmBxu3iIkiGunjVIeZA0/ IaA8XhO25GxtSRgcVrbUgLbycmF8kSL1kNSwSn9NjEecMRIlokVskJGJuvLVHgWX3xHQ xLyLQxwLdZROZYpIU8qQpIdfMVJ+wnHCwHEpTw6VXfvmI6h70TWnv9Glrw4JbWqK+XT+ x8xekPASmIEuPoCYLriCtq4ajJqLlIpDduImColiiCB5COFoJIzCuH95HZ+C9+ZTvqg+ w9Ug== X-Forwarded-Encrypted: i=1; AJvYcCV5RinToTx1rkvOIzjOIA0Sxa3bKA9QIylg5qm3KuhAK6NSzX1KwU9MIP8MdkVDRQjZRK9P47MQw4zOFuGOk6c=@freebsd.org X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YxQ8fHd9k0yX9YLmvb1WOH079PNP0frQoomshcvI2umiFyp0Vp8 r3HyMEktlPr5n48jRU73gpz9PjZO5w2pgHBBDvv2kAy2Owm49B84RVX1w5kUmu4EvEUTD8zfTio rC2tqFUtrjUt8uKzPjE/Bule6aufEKQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGkcGvKdquLBVjo495OLPV8RRqOMtHm1biYcYOmvzEgT+A/tQGx5DEaqwMJgHI4CPSwQHTRoI26cPg4eyNgl7o= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6122:1e0b:b0:4f5:abe4:50e2 with SMTP id 71dfb90a1353d-50344b7ccc1mr599949e0c.6.1726173156492; Thu, 12 Sep 2024 13:32:36 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20240912194859.8xZAdMX3@steffen%sdaoden.eu> <20240912195828.rFGdCML6@steffen%sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <20240912195828.rFGdCML6@steffen%sdaoden.eu> From: Alan Somers Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2024 14:32:24 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Some rather stupid questions about Rust and FreeBSD To: Steffen Nurpmeso Cc: "B. E." , Aryeh Friedman , FreeBSD Mailing List Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X4Tdd3WN4z43P1 On Thu, Sep 12, 2024 at 1:58=E2=80=AFPM Steffen Nurpmeso wrote: > > Steffen Nurpmeso wrote in > <20240912194859.8xZAdMX3@steffen%sdaoden.eu>: > ... > ||* I considered writing the fusefs test suite in Rust. It would've > ||been well-suited. But I was forced to do it in C++ instead. > > Btw i have forgotten to give you sympathy for this. > > But i am wondering in general, the OpenBSD guys (no girls at all > i think, except a plus HTML generator that is now also gone > i think) seem to allow "external" toolchains for at least tests. > I am pretty confident i have often seen a network stack guy > (German i think) to use Python for network tests. > Wouldn't this be an option for FreeBSD, to allow at least certain > parts of the unit tests to be written in freely chosen languages? Actually, that's already the case. FreeBSD already has quite a few test programs written in Python. That's not a problem, because Python is an interpreted language. We install the .py files directly to /usr/tests. A Python interpreter is required to execute the tests, but not to build them. That's not true of a compiled language like Rust. -Alan