From nobody Tue Sep 10 21:06:08 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4X3GTV6GfKz5Wjfs for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 21:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-io1-f41.google.com (mail-io1-f41.google.com [209.85.166.41]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4X3GTV4cKHz4jFV for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 21:06:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-io1-f41.google.com with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-82a238e0a9cso279884139f.3 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:06:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1726002381; x=1726607181; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=ok14TRDWZyHCZBmIyQj+mcOIdBb8sntooKRhQy6dGZ4=; b=ibyQx3169sa86IXeUO6VAHhDzt1J0HcXTvjlWtQyT73OptvScKVOixHnhuFTqYzVJP cWcF4vQjJGFEyAjZ9mLYEpEOZlyhYS5D3HOPBghkwBj+aMkHoR65D8QP2yW0hI2ou+9k 7oVNU/eE738XTFzwciQqh4fGV9w0DwKtz62NLgeoS2siIcyJUv61rUUjasTBT7C8d6dl LACqDn+fBdmExLSUDqpIm3JEQR1GhYmCcOhJormwKr3QPWGMQXNkb3roJ6Z+uarCrSZh nMCppI0IPF/kpqJ0MaSm/RIkEM2ZDg5begRzZ1KIEf/mfN3TptMWlx3DeZBIHfmKdLee /b+w== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yyl8uxuXFDjRUBio3IDsxy5h2aLULvdmLjgnAzdzSDZ6OQdhiiM aGVnArqcUP4ERLtICxmQChve3Ioy9J8Tfrh6OA8/OBzIQil8nYOZsTUNlBWemYHt3sU+FVyTGAR R5PhLNuWHc84/GB7DhSxRQhXGWvBFaw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IEz+HZQwvKEXcC0zW33XTrHryQgzIppesY6V/PXgE3bDLPo1WQENQaF+rmvXrkU6bugpUedtg8u2MRqI9nf2TQ= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6602:1648:b0:82d:d07:daaa with SMTP id ca18e2360f4ac-82d0d07db9cmr13970939f.4.1726002380863; Tue, 10 Sep 2024 14:06:20 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <49239d9a-aece-4b6b-b896-d7b4899149fc@FreeBSD.org> <20240910234949.85d5a48c9b9f7bcf945794fc@dec.sakura.ne.jp> <202409101817.48AIHLMj096285@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202409101817.48AIHLMj096285@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Ed Maste Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2024 17:06:08 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in any system) To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4X3GTV4cKHz4jFV On Tue, 10 Sept 2024 at 14:17, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > I dont know or think that C++ was the root cause of all this trouble, > maybe even far from, but I think we got vaccinated against C++ in > src just the same. We have Clang and friends, devd, zfsd, atf and kyua stuff, dtc, pmc tools, config, users, and rs as C++ in src. At least some of these started off as C programs.