From nobody Wed Sep 04 20:20:31 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WzYlX6WK1z5VK1f for ; Wed, 04 Sep 2024 20:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Received: from sdaoden.eu (sdaoden.eu [217.144.132.164]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WzYlX4NnPz4GrP for ; Wed, 4 Sep 2024 20:20:40 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from steffen@sdaoden.eu) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sdaoden.eu; s=citron; t=1725481233; x=1726147899; h=date:author:from:to:cc:subject: message-id:in-reply-to:references:openpgp:blahblahblah:author:from: subject:date:to:cc:resent-author:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-reply-to:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: content-disposition:content-id:content-description:message-id: mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah; bh=bOEDmG+Lk/vQ6LQOIJBfN6Q7GaEZj68ll6G+iyjzpKM=; b=Vx2ei0UJDVQnqY/Q1UQ5bTHwHhY5r77cVQzQ4/ePZQWtdWLH0WiT5/UKtFwM9XdZrXKtasit 6x2DQxermXnb3GZF0lV05FXoSR2jd5+7faV24n2EHZL272xek+uy/r2tnYURbFYVGAt7a3Hwq5 N0q4eW2Sj/3wqrTAO6hj8T/cYV8yARN4wM11sTmmGI1VnSSnUHDGl/OC7cSZBTKhtSrjeFNXt1 Gpub9E0nB6VliO7hfeHA1EsTxKlDpX/Yb4gIVTMYzwBbrHfW2A7XbYU91eT0A2J8LJeXK00RdN bOyj3/P87Oupm9Qeg29l2sdcUTxVzecLXkTSg2FCzcTCKbcg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=ed25519-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sdaoden.eu; s=orange; t=1725481233; x=1726147899; h=date:author:from:to:cc:subject: message-id:in-reply-to:references:openpgp:blahblahblah:author:from: subject:date:to:cc:resent-author:resent-date:resent-from:resent-sender: resent-to:resent-cc:resent-reply-to:resent-message-id:in-reply-to: references:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding: content-disposition:content-id:content-description:message-id: mail-followup-to:openpgp:blahblahblah; bh=bOEDmG+Lk/vQ6LQOIJBfN6Q7GaEZj68ll6G+iyjzpKM=; b=5HCP7OcnTibC9+s5StAYwyIyDgW5xERpOA/8x8lM3ZoPNFtRdTdkBDb8xMgsJAarQhs3g6Cu EEVZSoTUC1zPDw== Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2024 22:20:31 +0200 Author: Steffen Nurpmeso From: Steffen Nurpmeso To: "Mark Delany" Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Rust: kernel vs user-space Message-ID: <20240904202031.9bBKplcX@steffen%sdaoden.eu> In-Reply-To: <0.2.0-final-1725479563.495-0xfd6a7d@qmda.emu.st> References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> <7533543.20240904114624@yahoo.com> <0.2.0-final-1725440949.866-0xb4bb20@qmda.emu.st> <2bc0f51f110c943c58a1ce34d6725e9c@purelymail.com> <0.2.0-final-1725479563.495-0xfd6a7d@qmda.emu.st> User-Agent: s-nail v14.9.25-608-ge479530e8d OpenPGP: id=EE19E1C1F2F7054F8D3954D8308964B51883A0DD; url=https://ftp.sdaoden.eu/steffen.asc; preference=signencrypt BlahBlahBlah: Any stupid boy can crush a beetle. But all the professors in the world can make no bugs. X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15987, ipnet:217.144.128.0/20, country:DE] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WzYlX4NnPz4GrP List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Mark Delany wrote in <0.2.0-final-1725479563.495-0xfd6a7d@qmda.emu.st>: |> And this is better than C because ...? ... |> Lua |> Python |> Ruby |> Rust |> Zig |> dlang |> go And have a look at nim-lang.org, eg https://nim-lang.org https://nim-lang.org/features.html it is pretty cool, and not so cryptic. --steffen | |Der Kragenbaer, The moon bear, |der holt sich munter he cheerfully and one by one |einen nach dem anderen runter wa.ks himself off |(By Robert Gernhardt)