From nobody Tue Sep 03 17:50:30 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4WytTG5BJpz5TgTR for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 17:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua1-f54.google.com (mail-ua1-f54.google.com [209.85.222.54]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "WR4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4WytTG3Snnz4Gbb for ; Tue, 3 Sep 2024 17:50:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 6yearold@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: by mail-ua1-f54.google.com with SMTP id a1e0cc1a2514c-846d1ba933eso518202241.2 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 10:50:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1725385857; x=1725990657; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=9tXZL+CrPidikBcLD1SECG3ZDIm+vUAtVUA52XAJoc0=; b=E9GPbgQI0NR1uH0A6cmDFTw+OpwH/jyHHv3Oueg7EucEaEm7TBDHyPCLi8H2m/vRX/ +gE6ZeZEBLEqzjcpJR5FYXlZbxf5JqM8iaS+9Bor1NsMbrEL00lfrAPf47065ccLhDzP F4g1FAtAAuMShj9qnRwRMrMwzLPO28WLSrxuEZLPmvjHfZ8C4hqWzqZH5Nhj0jZeuIXz auNOKAA913JTreSzF4+C57bjDKwGORK4hnDAGxIRJSJBibnATq+nl2qxvjmveidREZ3C yHBmmiFBcLnxYBKe027apRIEDSGfqVgAH5IHMi/hGgW5UsQ7YXEhjpQ147zEcL8fLoYf xCSw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YzWRW6UnYo/IIo5EiAI4X9vFcbt68tkFhonvTf1qV1rSl3fE9k1 t0XuOO7otlviH2UaJdqIfJyEjb5ObBluoH8X64TGJoAy+shzVj6JnRSdnov4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IHCloRRkI8ugwx3NaJUpCcRxf/4FVEOle+KsiC/K5P7tFMKViqSelBV8rBJmddTVuOm7zt0Bg== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:3584:b0:492:a39c:57d7 with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-49a77934360mr8922584137.4.1725385857375; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-vs1-f53.google.com (mail-vs1-f53.google.com. [209.85.217.53]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id a1e0cc1a2514c-846db9e78dbsm674029241.5.2024.09.03.10.50.56 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Sep 2024 10:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by mail-vs1-f53.google.com with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-498dbd7dc89so1539582137.1 for ; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 10:50:56 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a05:6102:38c6:b0:48f:e7f2:b14 with SMTP id ada2fe7eead31-49a77a3deb2mr10582416137.26.1725385856622; Tue, 03 Sep 2024 10:50:56 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> In-Reply-To: <202409031532.483FW0If007252@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Gleb Popov Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2024 20:50:30 +0300 X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: Message-ID: Subject: Re: It's not Rust, it's FreeBSD (and LLVM) To: Poul-Henning Kamp Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:209.85.128.0/17, country:US] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WytTG3Snnz4Gbb On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 6:32=E2=80=AFPM Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > > The only answer I can think of > ------------------------------ > > "FreeBSD is ports (some of those ports contain the kernel and userland)" A port is a build recipe for something. FreeBSD can't be a collection of recipes, it is also the code itself. FreeBSD Ports is a meta-buildsystem, designed to pull from various sources and build using different underlying buildsystems. Under this angle I can't agree with the "FreeBSD is ports" definition.