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[107.215.223.229]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id d9443c01a7336-1fed7f1fb90sm122941565ad.182.2024.07.31.10.50.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:50:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Bakul Shah Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.600.62\)) Subject: Re: The Case for Rust (in the base system) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2024 10:49:52 -0700 References: To: FreeBSD Hackers In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.600.62) X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.99 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.99)[-0.992]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[iitbombay.org,quarantine]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[iitbombay-org.20230601.gappssmtp.com:s=20230601]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[iitbombay-org.20230601.gappssmtp.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[bakul]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; APPLE_MAILER_COMMON(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::52c:from] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4WZ03y6jFZz4KDS All this talk won't lead to anything much so a suggestion to those who want Rust in the FreeBSD base: why not exec it in a fork? That'll force you to solve practical problems, give you good experience [may be even cure you of this strange desire ;-)] and If it looks like a success, more people will join.