From nobody Mon Jan 22 22:55:12 2024 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4TJltg5kTHz58NXX for ; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:55:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@igalic.co) Received: from mail-4022.proton.ch (mail-4022.proton.ch [185.70.40.22]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "protonmail.com", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4TJltf18X5z4Zk9; Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:55:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@igalic.co) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=igalic.co header.s=protonmail3 header.b="P7cw/k32"; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd@igalic.co designates 185.70.40.22 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd@igalic.co DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=igalic.co; s=protonmail3; t=1705964135; x=1706223335; bh=rPAl+Nin506ua38xPD+51oBbjA/sC6gIa1OnguHF6Co=; h=Date:To:From:Cc:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:References: Feedback-ID:From:To:Cc:Date:Subject:Reply-To:Feedback-ID: Message-ID:BIMI-Selector; b=P7cw/k32rKdaMVerbQryvWRPxyPnMhyuHDvpHSeV/hqsWXlJpR6S0qiMP28s/0CNW VZaw60xsc6E8v7gxqjA2twJizziQLU4udF0OZ6xFA2Wuf6lxIQiLiXJrdUJj1Xj199 RAf2RPWW8MdfONFBS7iv01sVexqyg2tigyFbb2LgQZuOPMDoB1zB+BJwiTAd5AB2b6 F315tiaN4/m6VKnPdXyrEgWMc9jTOSJCoqv2Q0sfbrwJniLmZQXusecWhwJY5KxpP3 SnNK4reeq1ceqKPCT0oyKxntlyg975imfJIgVf61qOfad6qfJs/breJHeFArfkOGzF TMYUPZEDXfZ5g== Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2024 22:55:12 +0000 To: "junchoon@dec.sakura.ne.jp" , "imp@bsdimp.com" From: =?utf-8?Q?Mina_Gali=C4=87?= Cc: "wigneddoom@yandex.ru" , Alan Somers , freebsd-hackers , "scottl@freebsd.org" , =?utf-8?Q?Goran_Meki=C4=87?= Subject: Re: Re: The Case for Rust (in the base system) Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20240121110611.af567b0ac3a8fd8593ffcb7f@dec.sakura.ne.jp> References: <1673801705774097@mail.yandex.ru> <20240121110611.af567b0ac3a8fd8593ffcb7f@dec.sakura.ne.jp> Feedback-ID: 66573723:user:proton List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spamd-Bar: --- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.90 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_EXCELLENT(-0.40)[185.70.40.22:from]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:185.70.40.0/24]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[igalic.co:s=protonmail3]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; MISSING_XM_UA(0.00)[]; TO_DN_EQ_ADDR_SOME(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:62371, ipnet:185.70.40.0/24, country:CH]; RCVD_COUNT_ZERO(0.00)[0]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[igalic.co]; RCPT_COUNT_SEVEN(0.00)[7]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[yandex.ru,freebsd.org,tilda.center]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[igalic.co:+] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4TJltf18X5z4Zk9 don't mind me, I'm just here to reply to something I actually know about -------- Original Message -------- On 21/01/2024 02:06, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > =20 > One way to go could be moving programs rewritten with rust to ports. > There are some programs (not in rust, though) moved to ports, like rcs. > =20 > Currently, it would not be so realistic, but once we completely switch > to pkgbase, IIUC, programs in base can sanely depemd on ports programs, > excluding kernel and fundamental libraries. > =20 PkgBase is meant to package base. If pkg gains that feature, we might "recommend" some ports, but i think our= base needs to stay self-contained, just as it currently is.=20 Kind regards, Mina