Re: Trying initial boot of FreeBSD (main so: 15) of Ryzen 9 7950X3D on an ASUS Prime X670-P WIFI: various dmesg -a lines; more

On 2023-11-12T09:46:18.000+01:00, Paul Floyd <paulf2718@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On 04-11-23 21:10, Daniel Engberg wrote:
> 
>>  AM5 works pretty well in general but there are some issues you
>>  might 
>>  
>>   want to be aware of. As mentioned this 
>>  
>>   https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=272507 
>>  
>>   &lt;https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=272507>
>>  [https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=272507>]; seems
>>  to
> 
>>  A word of advice, you'll need a beefy CPU cooler for the 95W+
>>  "rated" 
>>  
>>   CPUs as they boost very aggressively and mid-sized air cooler
>>  might 
>>  
>>   cause it to throttle. Most Asus boards also supports ECC memory
>>  which 
>>  
>>   can be a nice feature.
> 
>  I'm not too woried about that yet.
> 
>>  Here's a good round-up of most if not all available models.
>>  
>>   https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=0
>>  &lt;https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=0>
>>  [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NQHkDEcgDPm34Mns3C93K6SJoBnua-x9O-y_6hv8sPs/edit#gid=0>];
>>  
>>   I'm personally happy with my ASUS ProArt X670E-CREATOR with 128Gb
>>  of ECC 
>>  
>>   memory (4 x MTC20C2085S1EC48BR) however be aware that you'll see
>>  much 
>>  
>>   slower memory clocks with 4 memory sticks especially dual rank
>>  due to 
>>  
>>   how DDR5 and current memory controllers works. Using the latest
>>  BIOS 
>>  
>>   available as of writing (1710) breaks SATA and USB among a few
>>  other 
>>  
>>   things while 1602 works fine.
> 
> I was thinking of the ProArt but strangely it only has input 
> 
> DisplayPort. Choosing a motherboard does seem to be the hardest bit.
> A 
> 
> lot seem to be expensive and flashy for gamers.
> 
> At the moment I'm down to a list of 3
> 
> MSI MAG X670E Tomahawk
> 
> Looks good but I'm a bit put off by bad reviews on youtube and
> amazon 
> 
> regarding quality
> 
> ASRock X670E Pro RS
> 
> Again not glowing reviews but it does have 6 sata ports 'just in
> casse'
> 
> ASUS Prime X670E-Pro
> 
> Much like the MSI Tomahawk
> 
> A+
> 
> Paul

The MSI board looks decent I guess, the x16/x4/x2 layout isn't great
but it's not horrible either depending on your use case. Never looked
into their lineup due to lack of a decent builtin NIC. You can get a
separate one but it's still an additional cost and takes of at least
one PCIe slot.

ASRock boards in general appears to be a bit rough around the edges
(both hardware design and BIOS) especially low-mid range models, their
premium tiers gets great reviews though. I would really think twice
about getting a board with only one slot that has more lanes than 1x
in terms of "full size" PCIe slots and you're again stuck with the
Realtek NIC.

As you said, the Asus board is pretty much like the MSI one however I
don't see why you'd go for that over the TUF Gaming X670E-Plus which
is pretty much the same board with some very minor changes such as no
optical output (quite a bit cheaper though).

The ProArt board also has a HDMI output? :-)

https://www.asus.com/motherboards-components/motherboards/proart/proart-x670e-creator-wifi/

Best regards,

Daniel