From nobody Sun Feb 12 21:57:18 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PFLtN1vp9z3pD24 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:57:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ej1-x62f.google.com (mail-ej1-x62f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::62f]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PFLtM20Hpz4S0Y for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 21:57:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com header.s=20210112 header.b="JmW62/zl"; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2a00:1450:4864:20::62f) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com; dmarc=none Received: by mail-ej1-x62f.google.com with SMTP id jg8so27618556ejc.6 for ; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:57:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=wM+iVltsyptxrxlwDVVr5Gki4XlZaBJm3EZkqsj9CUI=; b=JmW62/zlVB7KfGkzoxQezB354wuL/ah8EdSgaSajti/2BkfHvEaJ9xj6Dct39sGMbL bXmVYS8ZsJnPE8HD6dplxSpGelL5d2qPwkYM1DsQ+XthKZpt5PGVh63+yRA3lz1P3tuE lEN3jfvvsennfQVo61QAdUZrZjBp5K27wsvTDz1YN/e8ajwh7XIC0WhZ1PAhPzNyKh8g +FXiSEcPkYTpNl7xiqX1LMXAYC5XZGCQvHrJW3S361QC2+3IbEshPqFyegaOQNk3FB7u e6AH57Nc5Gl/mooBmPEMff9GVqB5zrGcN1w8CcXQYVhv+QB4QXrwJes9wLsoiIY1voPe UFig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=wM+iVltsyptxrxlwDVVr5Gki4XlZaBJm3EZkqsj9CUI=; b=jktK5Ppog0AcsEGOdDqeRZQ2yFOAkzMdHe86kCndg99pT/3zzykSCgYy3eLmTuza0p CcpPKmga05UCLD4S0WLjwc6lUGKDvCY1duCp+/XiDWWGbG0B/XutorOHilzeL1EhArwO 2WecsI2YvLjMPO2UqnNcOqiws8GlW12t+440irIzc+KQi5QLHMpoCtB+8sUzcACl2teu jm/jJ/Q9WKKedV2MBF1bGh6QkLOqDQdynSocKIwcSFdt1nyynpssaXec0jKhlI5m3Ud5 rJ5wfAkTp99czpGwgeS+GKYF69Thw0XDWgQkc2tQ4nK18dMSBfgKeSxh1Ab2OVcwkSu/ Tf3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AO0yUKXF6jAZU/1RSYDozpx/rH3fM3kdTxZmPpYqwn8sVEt0Is9bXdSJ Hv9K6T5tCqbMhy5lBLi4ot/vUCBQfCZC7wIccOEk2g== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AK7set/19y5yJBmKa/4tF/jUcmElHbckfI0aW1N3o37JpEohoPWEwEum8/mTC80Q33TaQ5cPd0G5vaoBWMfbWlOaD7M= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:fc26:b0:8b0:7c88:e86b with SMTP id ov38-20020a170906fc2600b008b07c88e86bmr1823254ejb.2.1676239049324; Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:57:29 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2f3dcda0-5135-290a-2dff-683b2e9fe271@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:57:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: CFT: snmalloc as libc malloc To: David Chisnall Cc: Mateusz Guzik , freebsd-hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000180d5005f487d157" X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.75 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.75)[-0.750]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com:s=20210112]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_CC(0.00)[gmail.com,freebsd.org]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::62f:from]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com:+]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PFLtM20Hpz4S0Y X-Spamd-Bar: -- X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000180d5005f487d157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" David, Thanks for replying. I do appreciate the offer to help work out a proposal for submodules. That would be quite useful. Technology has improved in the almost 5 years now since we looked at submodules for the first time. Many of your criticisms have some merit. There's not currently a formal working group. I walked away from it because there weren't enough people at the time that wanted to do work and some rather unfortunate comments from some other people (so bad I contemplated leaving the project)... Now that I've mostly recovered from that experience, I've started a more modest pull-request experiment... Moving to submodules is a big project, bigger than I can take on leading at the moment. And about my snarkiness... This is still a very sore spot with me, and so I responded to you with more snarkiness than you deserved. I'd like to apologise for that. I'm sorry. I'd love to have your input on this, but first we'd need to find someone to project manage things... 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David,

Thanks=C2=A0for reply= ing. I do appreciate the offer to help work out a proposal for submodules. = That would be quite useful. Technology has improved in the almost 5 years n= ow since we looked at submodules for the first time.=C2=A0 Many of your cri= ticisms have some merit.

There's not currently= a formal working group. I walked away from it because=C2=A0there weren'= ;t enough people at the time that wanted to do work and some rather unfortu= nate comments from some other people (so bad I contemplated leaving the pro= ject)... Now that I've mostly recovered from that experience, I've = started a more modest pull-request experiment... Moving=C2=A0to submodules = is a big project, bigger than I can take on leading at the moment.

And about my snarkiness... This is still a very sore spot = with me, and so I responded to you with more snarkiness than you deserved. = I'd like to apologise for that. I'm sorry.

I'd love to have your input on this, but first we'd need to find s= omeone to project manage things...

Warner
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