From nobody Thu Feb 09 23:09:45 2023 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4PCXdF0VhWz3pFjS for ; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 23:09:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Received: from kib.kiev.ua (kib.kiev.ua [IPv6:2001:470:d5e7:1::1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4PCXdD3R5Bz3Fsm; Thu, 9 Feb 2023 23:09:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none Received: from tom.home (kib@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by kib.kiev.ua (8.17.1/8.17.1) with ESMTPS id 319N9jsb010698 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 10 Feb 2023 01:09:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 kib.kiev.ua 319N9jsb010698 Received: (from kostik@localhost) by tom.home (8.17.1/8.17.1/Submit) id 319N9j8h010697; Fri, 10 Feb 2023 01:09:45 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from kostikbel@gmail.com) X-Authentication-Warning: tom.home: kostik set sender to kostikbel@gmail.com using -f Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2023 01:09:45 +0200 From: Konstantin Belousov To: Mateusz Guzik Cc: David Chisnall , freebsd-hackers Subject: Re: CFT: snmalloc as libc malloc Message-ID: References: <2f3dcda0-5135-290a-2dff-683b2e9fe271@FreeBSD.org> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=ALL_TRUSTED,BAYES_00, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD,FREEMAIL_FROM, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=4.0.0 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.0 (2022-12-14) on tom.home X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4PCXdD3R5Bz3Fsm X-Spamd-Bar: ---- X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:2001:470::/32, country:US] X-Rspamd-Pre-Result: action=no action; module=replies; Message is reply to one we originated X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Thu, Feb 09, 2023 at 09:53:34PM +0100, Mateusz Guzik wrote: > So, as someone who worked on memcpy previously, I note the variant > currently implemented in libc is pessimal for sizes > 16 bytes because > it does not use SIMD. I do have plans to rectify that, but ENOTIME. Note that you need two kinds of micro-benchmarks for this: - normal microbenchmark which does the SIMD-enabled memcpy() in a loop - a microbenchmark which ensures that the SIMD register file ownership is re-taken on each iteration (or close to it). I am sure that the results from #2 would be astonishing and give quite different prospective on the use of SIMD for basic libc services.