From nobody Sun Jan 30 22:25:54 2022 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D44E7198A911; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: from smtp.freebsd.org (smtp.freebsd.org [96.47.72.83]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Jn5Pc5Hfnz3qrW; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1643581556; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n2+F2CXeXD0m3NnP4PTuxjPW4YeZk2blas5/CjMj0RU=; b=NRNF2jAztvHHXp/AuSs1lpTwJQE3fibz8YMKhAnc3XgpSNopwGHw6AaWq3jOP0BOLHJIli 5JFpj/VgyoZtQ/qQe6RuAxsGParxGY19jmJqhgmOPqwIIlY6wv6GVKy6RpSo2f7u44uyUb pS5ZEQh6TitwCPRIDd9Bot6xDw37+dsFTJKUyzuFLEwLrEihmBCcNl5qGNTvgnAAYZBQxP wn7QIE1mCNkrk7vqSO91BtPnAvH9fuLe2QTXTJ6ObkJF110GiRtS4VkikExF8du4JKehxt 4RdKQAPHCI27ASG2+orxppTjMDi7cwqvWZTZNsfCXOXR5ezwVB3QA0R/6kniWA== Received: from next.des.no (unknown [84.210.195.41]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) (Authenticated sender: des) by smtp.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 72D59A6E2; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 22:25:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from des@freebsd.org) Received: by next.des.no (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 41A118C85; Sun, 30 Jan 2022 23:25:54 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=C3=B8rgrav?= To: Ed Maste Cc: FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Dragonfly Mail Agent (dma) in the base system In-Reply-To: (Ed Maste's message of "Thu, 27 Jan 2022 16:34:10 -0500") References: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.2 (berkeley-unix) Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2022 23:25:54 +0100 Message-ID: <86czk8rhcd.fsf@next.des.no> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=freebsd.org; s=dkim; t=1643581556; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: content-transfer-encoding:content-transfer-encoding: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=n2+F2CXeXD0m3NnP4PTuxjPW4YeZk2blas5/CjMj0RU=; b=oJBGEl96SMbU7UtT10CV7ilPExA3EV8bSCFqtIf906+WG31O+2JQ5en9mR1vNQcst143Iu inzdXe+0qIOtYVQuHIfiIm8hoxZC0EK2pCGVhfXV78MSh7Yw91hQNQG4+Ng4geQU8rAkAa NxS3p1T8EM84Uwlmy9iW1w/hiJnRoauhzXp6EhHdNZV1kc0FZvoy2zgNEkIrseZDadasLb yFHH96jeLyOTS0pnbPLMicbdpIGgpFnF2E5NKVCPMM0VkUiEcW1/S/NGPkoD/d8p5ijPT3 4HnsaAb60CWStuyAMwvd24/ovL2vKXlf67dbYv+i7s0LEK3qSdC75TsbP7KoOQ== ARC-Seal: i=1; s=dkim; d=freebsd.org; t=1643581556; a=rsa-sha256; cv=none; b=NDet+3lhZ8n93gA/M+9a4efoJjxOXLFdK6WbcndYVPSZeFDpxFY9puSnttflQL/2WkrcLZ Di7mJiVMnT0abfLBXxqBtmCjWHeFyDqMtyDHy0PvZ1KGnAt7cV7lYq26r3l4HZbwbFEpJw Z0XbH4I2ZMgcq25KtKszI7+naqLZeO0VpNj5ehFKaz0UN6AuyIEqscyjnu63nLsEFvqy98 mjXauxiWbfB7cFGYmUAOJXGBz5qW0RCmryiQPsVqIAs86SJNwqdbipl06cLtqPmaMteasN xnsLkbQOuij5DpZewX8hhpfJuTzINn1bMBA6hoxge5Sl/xR91gAGXeY8VbFq3w== ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx1.freebsd.org; none X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N Ed Maste writes: > I am interested in determining whether dma is a viable minimal base > system MTA, and if not what gaps remain. It cannot. Ask bapt@ who was the one to import it, and later abandon the idea of making it our default MTA. The reason was that it does not have a default domain setting, so it cannot handle email from cron, periodic etc. where the recipient is just a user name (usually =E2=80=9Croo= t=E2=80=9D), and the devs were not willing to add that feature. I have email as far back as 2015 on the subject. DES --=20 Dag-Erling Sm=C3=B8rgrav - des@FreeBSD.org