From nobody Thu Sep 02 14:43:21 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ADAA17BC665 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:43:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92b.google.com (mail-ua1-x92b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4H0kFQ2tXVz3nrk for ; Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:43:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92b.google.com with SMTP id g2so1037230uad.4 for ; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 07:43:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=plwDOZH6Y/sRfunKCJOt5AszPrtHeiJbU5vIjJ7ilS8=; b=PXumKjdEDtp5tPxlUjEi46JjD9uTSXFdem3FPev9tWnRuPsgrOzfDV2lgzWWaCTMmq HZGRTQ8QjLM3IIDLjXGzShpQXuQPRDmDA5iHy9cMS4JqsKSsw8qeu/IhvRr8z1lCn6j4 3a9oQk4sf3q8piaHC5ZRZIBVr5N6kas6GUzUoJOqvKIwpzJvW7OIsdXRkLjrkhOXLoS5 5VRP1WpWjJJcbW4Gb0swJ5dZrp3o9imN/ZWgqZsjFHtZqGwfbvSoi1JBAXAeVVTosnaW fGlAxxFb0RUfLInXgPK/X8aQ/Xx0rxQowRL9y87eRA3EcPWmHIztqpMYzKkait175JDe draw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=plwDOZH6Y/sRfunKCJOt5AszPrtHeiJbU5vIjJ7ilS8=; b=Ykxo5/NeFbsevwU8w9VWFzHt4ZEL/WKRG8BkH/1EvOU58apIBzGdYCUXFFD/QbnrPT uyBE0uHouO5yoN48CFmz0xJQe+xMNnFPOgcybH2GzQaME1apaQStR3GpNU3svjNLQkjU n/goM/rvRl8Mk+hBKqdHscyFNjpaDcSnWR20Gq14rocmPft8AHOc97eWd/GWV0W+4dPB 0DsdNSIxE6vrzJWQyxkD+6LoAEZEShtY7FtHEJTZ9H5Wr3weN093qW7HPCINI0mqUJF0 XQ/XToOnU/ye+J8rqG6XxoQBAUPKcyErrUwKz52JGiOVuOb4/U/qJy1f8ghWhAdg0ad1 NDew== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530pujWbiFPDkw35y0GvrhnRpR/F5W3EY0Z8wEVvLx11RFiZvwjy rP3dpz+tDkxqsp7VEq9doIcsqNkl8XEHLVDTMYWK0w== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz0PAPGANwW8oMRrORXZ6xSjgyjjE5coXxPPrwDpkThIx4YabRfOVZLrMeNMUI3h+6dNSDMxUs1+pRYj3tG9uQ= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:2a87:: with SMTP id z7mr2073593uai.11.1630593812668; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 07:43:32 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2021 08:43:21 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Call for participation To: FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Hackers , FreeBSD Ports Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000fa371105cb0434d5" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4H0kFQ2tXVz3nrk X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=PXumKjdE; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::92b) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.00 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::92b:from]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[no SPF record]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --000000000000fa371105cb0434d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Greetings, As teased on twitter, now that summer is over, it's a good time to start working on the next steps with git. When we moved to git, we knew a number of things would come in phase 2 since phase 1 was limited to moving away from subversion and to git. Now's the time for phase 2. The deferred items included better CI pipelines, better integration with popular hosting sites like github and gitlab, a look at the tools we have today and how they fit together, and a bunch of other items that were less well defined. I've spent the last several months looking at the different practices in open source, looking at our tools, etc. We have bits and pieces of many of these items, but are missing some glue between what we have. Other areas need more extensive work. To coordinate this work, I'll be leading a team to look at what we can do in the short term, the medium term and where we think we want to be in the long term. I plan on having bi-weekly meetings to discuss different issues that come up, to coordinate work and experiments and to give some structure to encouragement for progress to be made. This will be a collaborative effort between the developers and the user community that contributes patches to any part of FreeBSD (the base, ports and docs). If you are interested in participating, please drop me a line. We'll have a core office hours to talk about this soon, and I'd like to start discussions with those that are interested before hand, as well as invite people to participate in the office hours. After that, we'll have a kick off meeting that's open to everybody who can respectfully contribute. Looking forward to hearing from you. Warner --000000000000fa371105cb0434d5--