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[2603:6000:a401:3a00:6e88:14ff:fea7:590c]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 8sm11057239qtz.28.2021.11.30.05.50.22 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 05:50:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <23c3e735-22b5-7528-e311-d75657c33a69@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 07:50:30 -0600 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.2 Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <371b758c-1efa-b5df-6437-ce4f06369383@gmail.com> From: Jason Bacon In-Reply-To: <371b758c-1efa-b5df-6437-ce4f06369383@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J3Nrw2Mq5z4RpQ X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=FKopplWO; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of bacon4000@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=bacon4000@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.95 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.95)[-0.949]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::82e:from]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 11/30/21 05:53, Floyd, Paul wrote: >> Message du 24/11/21 11:08 >> De : "Stefan Blachmann" >> Port nouveau to FreeBSD. >> >> Reason: >> There are ongoing changes in the xorg API which break older >> proprietary Nvidia cards' legacy drivers. >> In addition, Nvidia plans to drop/discontinue support for their 390 >> driver in 2022. >> Nvidia already stopped support releases for their 340 and older >> drivers so that a lot of Nvidia graphics cards can no longer be used >> on FreeBSD already or will be unusable very soon. >> >> https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3142/~/support-timeframes-for-unix-legacy-gpu-releases >> > > > That's bad news that I hadn't seen. > > However I'm not sure that porting nouveau will help. My experience on > Fedora is that nouveau simply never works. > > A+ > Paul If your nVidia cards are basically landfill, like some of mine, and you don't care about 3D support, xf86-video-nv still works in some case that would otherwise call for v304. I wonder if it would be a simple matter to add support to it for some additional older hardware supported by v340. Yes, I know nv is deprecated, but this may be the only solution for ancient hardware. -- All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers ... Each one owes infinitely more to the human race than to the particular country in which he was born. -- Francois Fenelon