From nobody Tue Nov 30 11:37:25 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36BE418AB988 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:37:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgorny@moritz.systems) Received: from mail-lj1-x22b.google.com (mail-lj1-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J3KvX6pdfz4Wqv for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 11:37:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from mgorny@moritz.systems) Received: by mail-lj1-x22b.google.com with SMTP id i63so40514350lji.3 for ; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 03:37:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=moritz-systems.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to:references:user-agent :mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LWKLnCldf4tJ+HtaD/af2QIyubux+nZvyrBFWhyAyP8=; b=0C6YAdKzkCJj9qzIZjsgPLobMDu7aY1z4cqAbUhsNL5k5ZWacHG20xr98hbzXgRmmA vIXgANi0nHKJKjuu2C1L/r8tD3iq1ei4AYTQvrkNPbr/9LJAk+59A++arRpJ36s9NBkQ 9LW+xGroYsNbjUiAVV5opT+ndcoxKTJcXWp9hUZTrkxYLcMwmGm8+S7h7l0onhm4ED+D HW6lk02qJDk9ngxtl9mBKdq9ne7Ly1SNlhx1cTTvrxwPxZlo9aMCVnhcS1VuiFr8tEF3 KfbGgyOMMKGrSfupfmkP8JUYmSuBRKPNedq/bwMYwCIeDq+jo3/eyr+gsNCLRY24Bi7v yq6Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:subject:from:to:date:in-reply-to :references:user-agent:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=LWKLnCldf4tJ+HtaD/af2QIyubux+nZvyrBFWhyAyP8=; b=mS59omvgg9raLWL7N2lXs8vNMBJat6HIydqzvhoMTWF4H/incVIErTlcrkBcOM7GOQ DMeA9DkIEED0yIXf9A5lypdXAwwt7uz7KXmNHMtBmFcAoWwT0xOYcNj7BMZUqG4BE5PI HE38p2cV6cKkpNhmkBsUU4k2l8AurnWG8ZmEQeS3KLnfZA9tmTro+AwYLZW5Ab0FsS5B iQJTxa7a1AVbmcfEiOgUFe4NcgzoXDXhdpNO4YtUK/C+a4oAM+PJ1OMpymdPDvK1OiWO iWSKw1msJLPPha0DIMT6QFg/dRNnDCvXbDzzco2Mx8vDOqXBtAmhhfoMDwqR83oIxmzE 3raQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533MbUy55ZsVoXRTl4JTqVT3eXw8JVJZMOHj2BmKBAOW7+lED4gr IZRIu9Guz6rd7FyOuLk7ZreHDQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwyY/noLMC21CHxwaXuHDPNHRuZcLZ6k0lILGG8MaEYeNDwusTocAFHXoKrjVOlwxLfa5U3nQ== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:96c2:: with SMTP id d2mr55286756ljj.46.1638272247513; Tue, 30 Nov 2021 03:37:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.1.17] (c139-65.icpnet.pl. [85.221.139.65]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n2sm401174ljq.30.2021.11.30.03.37.25 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Tue, 30 Nov 2021 03:37:26 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <2cd0ba0002db6d25c41a8dc8f2a856b372370605.camel@moritz.systems> Subject: Re: llvm/clang upstream From: =?UTF-8?Q?Micha=C5=82_G=C3=B3rny?= To: "Floyd, Paul" , freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Date: Tue, 30 Nov 2021 12:37:25 +0100 In-Reply-To: <43a13a6b-baee-e8cb-3624-ee98da510ad0@gmail.com> References: <43a13a6b-baee-e8cb-3624-ee98da510ad0@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" User-Agent: Evolution 3.42.1 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J3KvX6pdfz4Wqv X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Tue, 2021-11-30 at 12:08 +0100, Floyd, Paul wrote: > Not sure where the best place is to ask this. > > Any ideas why llvm seems so incredibly slow in taking FreeBSD patches? > > It would be nice to be able to just 'git clone && cmake && make' > (roughly speaking). In my opinion, LLVM is an overgrown project whose organization structure didn't follow. I don't know about FreeBSD patches specifically but in general the hardest part is finding someone to approve your patch. Many patches rot without a single reply from anyone, and I think the whole process discourages people from trying. -- Best regards, Michał Górny