From nobody Sun Nov 28 00:17:22 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BFD18A61A4 for ; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [IPv6:2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4J1pvt329vz3vPp; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jamie@catflap.org) Received: from donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id 1AS0HN5H080801; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:23 GMT (envelope-from jamie@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net) Received: (from jamie@localhost) by donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) id 1AS0HMYG080800; Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:23 GMT (envelope-from jamie) From: Jamie Landeg-Jones Message-Id: <202111280017.1AS0HMYG080800@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:22 +0000 Organization: Dyslexic Fish To: grog@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Top posting (was: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas) References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <8483eae3-3ee2-1548-8786-42bb96d4937a@gmail.com> <20211125234816.GE96868@eureka.lemis.com> In-Reply-To: <20211125234816.GE96868@eureka.lemis.com> User-Agent: Heirloom mailx 12.4 7/29/08 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net [104.207.135.49]); Sun, 28 Nov 2021 00:17:23 +0000 (GMT) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J1pvt329vz3vPp X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=catflap.org; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jamie@catflap.org designates 2001:19f0:300:2185:123::1 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jamie@catflap.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.57)[-0.574]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[jamie]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:dyslexicfish.net]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.22)[-0.223]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[catflap.org,none]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N "Greg 'groggy' Lehey" wrote: > On Wednesday, 24 November 2021 at 21:33:50 +0000, Graham Perrin wrote: > > On 24/11/2021 01:31, Mehmet Erol Sanliturk wrote: > >> Change policy about discouraging top posting and convert it to encouraging > >> top posting > > > > Please, don't. > > Agreed entirely in this context. But what are we talking about here? > Mehmet refers to a policy, but who has read it? > > My guess is that his real issue is "bottom posting", which is arguably > even worse than "top posting". In each case, the reply is separate > from the original, and the only difference is where you find it. But I agree that "bottom posting" is an annoying problem too. > that's not what the policy says. As I know it, it's at the end of > https://docs.freebsd.org/en/articles/freebsd-questions/ and obviously > > [POLICY] > > It's over 20 years old, but I still believe that it is correct. It > also should work for mobile phones, better than "top posting". > > Comments? I agree. Whether I'm using mobile or desktop, that is by far the easiest format to navigate. It's almost as if whoever wrote that had some relevant experience on the matter! :-) Cheers, Jamie