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Message-Id: References: <5E10E4FD-4C52-4B96-807B-2B6008E4886C@yahoo.com> To: Emmanuel Vadot , FreeBSD Hackers Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:29:24 -0800 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J11vY71K7z4pp9 X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=yahoo.com header.s=s2048 header.b=JwhEuAbS; dmarc=pass (policy=reject) header.from=yahoo.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of marklmi@yahoo.com designates 98.137.66.146 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=marklmi@yahoo.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.50 / 15.00]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ptr:yahoo.com]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[yahoo.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[yahoo.com,reject]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-0.999]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[yahoo.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:36647, ipnet:98.137.64.0/20, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[yahoo.com:dkim]; SUBJECT_ENDS_QUESTION(1.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[yahoo.com:s=s2048]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; RWL_MAILSPIKE_POSSIBLE(0.00)[98.137.66.146:from]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Reply-To: marklmi@yahoo.com From: Mark Millard via freebsd-hackers X-Original-From: Mark Millard X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N [This is a resend after joining freebsd-hackers (again?).] This is just a history FYI. I no longer have access to powerpc* systems. When I did they were all old PowerMacs. I can not test the current status any more. > What vt(4) can't do : . . . Well, what vt(4) didn't (doesn't?) do on some powerpc systems . . . But there were also the other direction: ones where vt worked but sc did not. So I used a mix on powerpc systems. The contexts were basic video console use, not X11 or such. Of, course, tier 2 breakage on old PowerMac hardware may not be enough to drive the choice about keeping sc, even if vt could not be made to work. I looked up some of my old list messages and back on 2021-Jan-13 I reported to Warner: PowerMac7,2 G5: vt worked, sc hang just after "Kernel entry at 0x100580 ...". iMac G3 (PowerMac4,1): sc worked, vt failed (showing a blank screen). However in that time frame the old old 2-socket-/2-cores-each G5 with the Radeon X1950 was dead and untestable. It used to be that vt mishandled a 2560x1440 display for this context and caused a boot-crash. The smaller displays worked fine. But I do know that in the 2021-Jan-13 the GeForce 7800 GT based 2-socket-/2-cores-each G5 handled the same display just fine. (That machine died since then.) So the vt issue involved here might have been fixed. === Mark Millard marklmi at yahoo.com ( dsl-only.net went away in early 2018-Mar)