From nobody Fri Nov 26 14:03:04 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39D9318C769B for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf1-f43.google.com (mail-lf1-f43.google.com [209.85.167.43]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J0xL310h7z4VSM for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 14:03:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from carpeddiem@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf1-f43.google.com with SMTP id f18so24586311lfv.6 for ; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:03:39 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=B1p/+3yx2aAzq93al/RuLuYMFusZBMAeQkwpGccyXvg=; b=TyE80dS851vNM/mjX6fqCU03sJZO84LRVTcKe+qWzudhHe2uSWKUndassdxHly8dWp J4HA7TxQFNzdMkkDfR5iu4FsmBvLBqRfEomEoUJHor1Y+pqC/tT9ZoUOm+LwTVbMgGh2 aMuvJFgZSWKDWXk6tyBCTqjMomd9kBrKXESmaz101lDBhOPTN+wbZTCdppM6n2+HcTng lIt4yG6fQy8Ff8RmjtNE4UygqKR1jN3Sm/tPZfL8cehnw1kEcIcUAn7rVbkg6jI3JsAy cTT13aRWFd4EFHKi/pGj474IV6dJz0QUpKDmzj5PyGOFsf21RjZaFCld1xGSjUqz0SbH 4mlA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5337cpWIAn4qtWzELCRyAv4N45bRGJfoH64RHH0V/bbv5Ha/1OA9 IkXFMpgmNFoysr46dgf+DtFMvz2Kz9XT2e0UJdZfuaHt X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzK5uuDxGDasi6i13LuyAYqklByp0YXdqqGoAcaCQOsLqwZrVrKBL6dKCC1sMQy0GkN+/skVfrztBomP8iXRQo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:31ce:: with SMTP id j14mr29750047lfe.247.1637935409993; Fri, 26 Nov 2021 06:03:29 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202111260909.1AQ99LY2023877@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> In-Reply-To: <202111260909.1AQ99LY2023877@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> From: Ed Maste Date: Fri, 26 Nov 2021 09:03:04 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring WITHOUT_CXX To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J0xL310h7z4VSM X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 at 04:09, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > So is the feature model of FreeBSD becoming, oh it gets broken > cause it is not regularly tested, so lets remove that feature. I don't agree with that. We have a large and growing CI infrastructure to regularly test functionality and are continually adding to it over time. But it's important to test and maintain what is actually used and is useful. Disabling C++ support made sense when obrien@ added the original knob in 2000, but it makes less sense today when parts of FreeBSD are written in C++.