From nobody Thu Nov 25 21:45:23 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C52118C5A10 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 21:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-ua1-x92b.google.com (mail-ua1-x92b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92b]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4J0WdV3P8Mz4jhd for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 21:45:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-ua1-x92b.google.com with SMTP id j14so14831926uan.10 for ; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:45:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=fnhiRc5F78RX+cfsNw3GHLV8pUVVnCvppNBA4IEPNvE=; b=nM+05AJf7Xs1GKIEp5MhS8hlFitNHEGrAfUJv1+UH+5gggB3YXTybajojZNjvYc53J FibEEeqVmlLtj6B6H/SqppBzUUbDquDAFkAsuIHPFBZi8Zwqlr6VWK2vR+YKyezGrzJL KELX6JWlUPo9kB6h9SLTGdPBkvbRSR5xEi5bl9/W4rY7AR8bpMBMsQdwLdY84gevTXWM TB5JSccQnhYRevFxrFJgl4BHJUY0O7SnDSmr3X9i1LcVjAY/nk+9+voD6mGGdI0bz4UD of4MuWCt2Jwsq+pxSYc+ZQAAxgoDnlQ0NSpJahcXe3e+4TVFUVAYbnFrkqC9PfMkYFw0 iZ0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=fnhiRc5F78RX+cfsNw3GHLV8pUVVnCvppNBA4IEPNvE=; b=MlR5BvYj3iJirLzql4EuzHscADo9+l2SNus6K+uqLqTBvKKjX/sdD+Mr0j3FMbed3p 3I0gva5jcEV+rhYqp7Cf/ZexocX0PXLM4A4wLpm+LmN3LnO+esW2zPPgb2eazuf92L6+ b9kn/gEBJ99dVD1S1Bz81hreD4Tcx1KDzev+wTyd034ib97ZSRL9wxtNe5bp6Ng07An2 on+CGw1C4l3u6pxDFggatzgD1ESS/C5ArV/EfkbfUf/ihjMpO+M9kVNF9fhp/gGfPLrI e1eEMweaCOmt12aSiPHmtrBLtlJI6cXyLkUpe5fGMkSahqeXn4tmxcw5gjU0Dg7C4JjL TqUw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531ioI2mbt8JFBjFUI7riMb7B93nzTJMMvKkMm5ZZFyEOpZ7W0aF Zq/y1aVeAibDIKd66g4NXLrvkR3lIZRWzy+uJffIkQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzSNu2DhCaANxkSnVQrB87EbLNQttcEsY7MKCHX4ipNrsDKjuSukmcxgaAHnzqKF3jueZg3b8dxjiXtXCydRzY= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:21d7:: with SMTP id 81mr30737965uac.39.1637876733929; Thu, 25 Nov 2021 13:45:33 -0800 (PST) List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 25 Nov 2021 14:45:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Retiring WITHOUT_CXX To: Ed Maste Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000e9ac8605d1a3e452" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4J0WdV3P8Mz4jhd X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: Y --000000000000e9ac8605d1a3e452 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, Nov 25, 2021 at 11:39 AM Ed Maste wrote: > Several base system components are written in C++, and the WITHOUT_CXX > option is not regularly tested and is often broken. I fixed a number > of WITHOUT_CXX issues in response to Michael Dexter's recent Build > Option Survey runs, but it will break again absent ongoing effort. > This does not seem like a useful endeavour given the limitations it > imposes on the resulting system. > > I'm proposing we remove the WITHOUT_CXX option and have opened a > review to do so: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D33108 We've grown enough C++ support this is likely sane. Warner --000000000000e9ac8605d1a3e452--