From nobody Wed Nov 24 21:46:26 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02AD1894B42 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from tor1-11.mx.scaleengine.net (tor1-11.mx.scaleengine.net [209.51.186.6]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Hzvj00Whqz4ZY4 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:46:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from allanjude@freebsd.org) Received: from [10.1.1.3] (Seawolf.HML3.ScaleEngine.net [209.51.186.28]) (Authenticated sender: allanjude.freebsd@scaleengine.com) by tor1-11.mx.scaleengine.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D6BB52FB47 for ; Wed, 24 Nov 2021 21:46:27 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.10.3 tor1-11.mx.scaleengine.net D6BB52FB47 Message-ID: <246adde5-6a7a-4102-abb4-16c766ea78d1@freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 24 Nov 2021 16:46:26 -0500 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.3.1 Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Content-Language: en-US To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <66b556bf-e797-483b-b377-182859be572a@www.fastmail.com> From: Allan Jude In-Reply-To: <66b556bf-e797-483b-b377-182859be572a@www.fastmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Hzvj00Whqz4ZY4 X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=softfail (mx1.freebsd.org: 209.51.186.6 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of allanjude@freebsd.org) smtp.mailfrom=allanjude@freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.89 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; FREEFALL_USER(0.00)[allanjude]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; R_SPF_SOFTFAIL(0.00)[~all]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.21)[0.208]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:6939, ipnet:209.51.160.0/19, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DOM_EQ_FROM_DOM(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 11/24/2021 2:42 AM, Dave Cottlehuber wrote: > On Tue, 23 Nov 2021, at 22:41, Joseph Mingrone wrote: >> Hello FreeBSD community, >> >> The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to support. What >> gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader community? >> >> You can read about past Foundation-supported projects at >> https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/projects/ and the Foundation's >> four main areas of focus in the 'Technology Roadmap' article at >> https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/technology-roadmap/. >> >> Right now we are gathering ideas. We will send out a call for project >> grant proposals soon. If you prefer to send your project ideas directly >> to the Foundation, we will be monitoring responses at >> techteam@freebsdfoundation.org. >> >> -- >> Joe (with Foundation hat on) > > Some new ideas. > > 1. updated kmod ports for point releases. > > we should be able to ship an x+1 RELEASE *and* have the appropriate kmod ports available at the same time. I know that unplanned API breakage is rare, but when it does happen, its absolutely brutal for end users. > > 2. a decent ports CI > > At least for committers, and for regular maintainers, we should be able to have some common-sense pre-commit build checks done at least on tier 1 architectures easily without human intervention. > > 3. jail creation and usage as non-root > > nuff said. > > 4. more programmable/scriptable configs > > I would love to see FreeBSD be the programmable server environment. > > - libxo all the things > - more stuff like libifconfig libpf libzfs -- "lib-ify" all the things > - UCL all the things > > A+ > Dave > I was discussing the idea of 'user jails' with a few people around EuroBSDcon. Do you have some specific user cases, and/or ideas of what would be allowed and not allowed? -- Allan Jude