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[88.105.96.80]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c8sm4069766wri.91.2021.07.02.12.51.52 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 02 Jul 2021 12:51:52 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: firefox is slow and uses a lot of memory To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org References: <37fe2be4-a142-c49e-e1b0-0e9a8fd07a74@freebsd.org> From: Graham Perrin Message-ID: <521f2dba-fd28-f005-7c27-efd59f056283@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2021 20:51:52 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.11.0 List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <37fe2be4-a142-c49e-e1b0-0e9a8fd07a74@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-GB X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GGm1l1YXRz3lYD X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20161025 header.b=L4ri3L/9; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of grahamperrin@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4864:20::32d as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-0.01 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2a00:1450:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RBL_DBL_DONT_QUERY_IPS(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2a00:1450::/32, country:US]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20161025]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[88.105.96.80:received]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(1.00)[0.997]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; SPAMHAUS_ZRD(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from:127.0.2.255]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(0.99)[0.990]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2a00:1450:4864:20::32d:from]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; MAILMAN_DEST(0.00)[freebsd-hackers] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N On 01/07/2021 20:49, Craig Leres wrote: > Starting with firefox 89 or so, I've found it starts using a LOT of > memory and actually makes the system sluggish and causes momentary X > freezes. I have 32G of ram/swap, No such problem here with FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT. Can you share details of your graphics hardware, and associated software? Maybe of interest: and the subsequent answers about hardware and software. > is it reasonable for firefox to use 15G? > >         Craig > > ice 95 % uname -a > FreeBSD ice.alameda.xse.com 12.2-RELEASE-p8 FreeBSD 12.2-RELEASE-p8 > r18 LBL  amd64 > > > >>>> top -osize > > last pid: 71913;  load averages:  0.52,  0.53,  0.47    up 1+00:29:04 > 12:46:04 > 215 processes: 2 running, 206 sleeping, 6 stopped, 1 zombie > CPU:  1.9% user,  0.0% nice,  0.3% system,  0.1% interrupt, 97.7% idle > Mem: 2931M Active, 3479M Inact, 1874M Laundry, 19G Wired, 1192M Buf, > 4116M Free > ARC: 13G Total, 3822M MFU, 8686M MRU, 172K Anon, 270M Header, 553M Other >      11G Compressed, 81G Uncompressed, 7.38:1 Ratio > Swap: 32G Total, 32G Free > >   PID USERNAME    THR PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE    C   TIME WCPU > COMMAND > 63858 leres        35  20    0    15G   506M select   7   0:40 0.08% > firefox >  3610 leres         3  20    0  6268M    61M select   2   4:54 1.00% Xorg >  3159 telegraf     19  23    0  4926M    47M uwait    3   0:26 0.00% > telegraf > 63845 leres       125  20    0  4612M  1794M select   7  18:49 4.61% > firefox > 33553 leres        60  20    0  4579M  2077M CPU2     2   9:18 3.10% > thunderb > 63859 leres        34  20    0  2916M   559M select   3   1:11 0.08% > firefox > 63857 leres        34  20    0  2812M   466M select   0   2:00 0.18% > firefox > 63850 leres        37  20    0  2723M   377M select   2   1:51 0.24% > firefox > 63849 leres        34  20    0  2708M   394M select   3   1:05 0.02% > firefox > 63856 leres        34  20    0  2608M   275M select   6   0:30 0.01% > firefox > 63861 leres        34  20    0  2491M   189M select   6   0:05 0.05% > firefox > 63847 leres        34  20    0  2471M   171M select   1   0:04 0.05% > firefox > 70198 leres        27  20    0  2436M   142M select   5   0:01 0.05% > firefox > 63860 leres        26  20    0  2422M   130M select   2   0:01 0.00% > firefox >  3132 influxd      18  52    0   997M   185M uwait    2   6:16 0.06% > influxd >  3214 root          6  20    0   510M   491M select   0   2:38 0.19% > pcscd >  2897 bind         26  52    0   349M   281M sigwai   0   0:15 0.00% > named > 22334 www           4  52    0   108M    77M select   3   0:02 0.00% > httpd >