From nobody Mon Dec 13 13:26:58 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-hackers@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE51218F39E8 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:27:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: from mail-qt1-x830.google.com (mail-qt1-x830.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::830]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4JCMjv68T0z4r3H for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 13:26:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org) Received: by mail-qt1-x830.google.com with SMTP id n15so15168822qta.0 for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:26:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=hardenedbsd.org; s=google; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=EhDaxUh//6B4RDy2KNuu2Dmx3GK/vKMh0GnMao81moA=; b=QezUskpYrikTAu57Omg+1OwypNO5AQ+TuFRqdrVdVibcv1Z+adYAU3zr63tnDqaGbj oxWec4Mlkee8qA5oupoIgm/+wjyZQkZlPM+jyaQjTnxpRK6Xe250jc3grK/Uxp8WkkoG +czexyFtzLPAoUk/PN/R2FV0tKc7HG43lYStbtkOydoROHQD1/ZpapW7D12Odlmfh7Em 8bXFDrhySitQIzK717xXZTIMGz784ptH2VUZVv9rhMI0f6qD03WCpC4xOAnYjYnsXsoq hm8Zz+hUcrllXsfRM1Is4UmVXjs0YHTvuhsuxHng5j2aMVfGBr2TR8kvaADq0UyrPvcP dIyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references :mime-version:content-disposition:in-reply-to; bh=EhDaxUh//6B4RDy2KNuu2Dmx3GK/vKMh0GnMao81moA=; b=bOe+x7J3NjarX+dWO1YwjbyA/KIyXuoIYmAf7EoAGSxFxLO9QH6mShcdpKz2PHAYXM JdQfvEozNWoYW91+waMsY+xDQMswuXcNoFXLwv5KmlIMdfL+41Md3V8gJLZpijSrefhE LcSVGn2HRVJT2z0aEUOkLwjOg9atvfzz3nFkz37CSHmt3VGfgg7yiLWxSCez3pgeZpUy 51kq1xfIrsqB57zolBRUz4M4CG+WGfb4FbBokhSX9UNNNhGX0+rB/Y2EvpyrfencLJ+x gGZx+8GSDza3jp/JBl9qku6byOeMmvC7pKBAW5PRDuLnl42/xhbSeXGdaZeLeGHIIsop HNiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530T6KsgPO9VRFEUP6NyOUxPSKtgBG4TDu07nKNXE+MpOnQaNHKb Hr6XXs98KLyjOk0VsBTrhFH5LOcxSDoHI07Q X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJySZuztjnWudfsUBmWVfjbfOIglpPY3urCgZgD+6/WJsQb2x1RuPU/a1CthNWZjYLtq02Gn+A== X-Received: by 2002:ac8:5a0b:: with SMTP id n11mr45392212qta.372.1639402019420; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:26:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from mutt-hbsd (pool-100-16-224-136.bltmmd.fios.verizon.net. [100.16.224.136]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v12sm9461501qtx.80.2021.12.13.05.26.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 13 Dec 2021 05:26:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 08:26:58 -0500 From: Shawn Webb To: Joseph Mingrone Cc: FreeBSD Hackers Subject: Re: Call for Foundation-supported Project Ideas Message-ID: <20211213132658.x5sfzqntltrkp25x@mutt-hbsd> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD mutt-hbsd 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD FreeBSD 14.0-CURRENT-HBSD X-PGP-Key: https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/blob/master/Shawn_Webb/03A4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc References: <861r36xzpe.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <20211123232814.6vx3sqnsdvc52oc3@mutt-hbsd> <20211124213150.6lsyaqgwbkgfcgzi@mutt-hbsd> List-Id: Technical discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-hackers List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="qw2nclyin4tnonzo" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20211124213150.6lsyaqgwbkgfcgzi@mutt-hbsd> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4JCMjv68T0z4r3H X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=hardenedbsd.org header.s=google header.b=QezUskpY; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::830 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=shawn.webb@hardenedbsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-3.01 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[hardenedbsd.org:s=google]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-0.91)[-0.907]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org]; NEURAL_SPAM_SHORT(1.00)[1.000]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[hardenedbsd.org:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::830:from]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[100.16.224.136:received] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --qw2nclyin4tnonzo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Nov 24, 2021 at 04:31:50PM -0500, Shawn Webb wrote: > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 06:28:14PM -0500, Shawn Webb wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 06:41:01PM -0400, Joseph Mingrone wrote: > > > Hello FreeBSD community, > > >=20 > > > The Foundation is seeking suggestions for new projects to support. W= hat > > > gaps in the Project are not being addressed by the broader community? > > >=20 > > > You can read about past Foundation-supported projects at > > > https://freebsdfoundation.org/our-work/projects/ and the Foundation's > > > four main areas of focus in the 'Technology Roadmap' article at > > > https://freebsdfoundation.org/blog/technology-roadmap/. > > >=20 > > > Right now we are gathering ideas. We will send out a call for project > > > grant proposals soon. If you prefer to send your project ideas direc= tly > > > to the Foundation, we will be monitoring responses at > > > techteam@freebsdfoundation.org. > >=20 > > Hey Joseph, > >=20 > > Thanks for sending this out! > >=20 > > Here's just a few things I'd love to see: > >=20 > > 1. wireless mesh support. this would go _a long_ ways for supporting > > human rights efforts. > > 2. 100% llvm toolchain for base and ports. freebsd seems to already be > > going in this direction. > > 3. jail orchestration in base. it's great that we have all these > > disparate jail management ports, but we lack a fully > > coherent/integreated solution. I'd love to see jail orchestration > > get the same love as zfs in base. > > 4. tor browser bundle (port from openbsd?) > >=20 > > That's at least what I can think of off the top of my head. >=20 > Another idea: >=20 > 5. Distributed Poudriere. I have a few systems that would benefit from > such a feature. For example, two ThunderX1 systems. And once I > resurrect our partially-dead ThunderX2 system, we'll have three > arm64 appliances in which we can build packages. Another idea: Make unionfs stable and usable. unionfs is plagued by quite a few issues. I'm currently running into a unionfs-related kernel panic at ${DAYJOB} when building our appliance firmware. And I have a major release happening in four days. ;-) Thanks, --=20 Shawn Webb Cofounder / Security Engineer HardenedBSD https://git.hardenedbsd.org/hardenedbsd/pubkeys/-/raw/master/Shawn_Webb/03A= 4CBEBB82EA5A67D9F3853FF2E67A277F8E1FA.pub.asc --qw2nclyin4tnonzo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEA6TL67gupaZ9nzhT/y5nonf44foFAmG3Sh8ACgkQ/y5nonf4 4fqV8w/7B6FvtptBbtp6Z8ofqPQNH1+VndD7V63blmW96dHbErjlMAvg927yagTk 5nV0NIvC8llLnDn5vh+ElmHFxoF5ZkYgdvjuDc5wbNplMzCMlt8K/EQFt1mVSYDO o92EpQcADVBalR4f/iwSlZdJhawRcejRlu+gLPbGhARrzEuvpHzumqtw4AdLtjmb Enj87UxCfm5p08+abKWLTUjcj6z+lFDHxrwxj+83bVik8SSli/Jm4KrbQGocb1FX GVweBwjQJxei7er0QCYBuWY2w1khllWqRpzeAMenkrNCkc8M5kJ4WZH7QLje0Qk2 fyyhzGAQww8/G5erE2q3quf5veK/cYjbp4uQptfib6WHWtWJ/YLDFOi9sm9uElbm 2aJnkhlLBT7fDiaZcn6sooQh3gNCGRcOqm+Xrhv+Iw/ZoMhWKt6yCygMrXoe1R2T k9tqyiKZKrrANGI1XisYdAOCmv8Om0/9H2mG6Ar0AwmuHfx0bCpbqGdLRz6Kk6sc ujJ0UvnoIMQagugxDUuUYMFo2tPdKWaUB9EgMgeykUl7t9WGbUTCrPPLOMqaESpI ogyjIZqIt/k+ksvT4VKJSbym5S1H6Rxf3JGrcx5ya0UKMbytGOpPdoFlhs9xAHnu JrNL6UeYkdhPiKhiwya578idKhGSacQF/Hrj7O3u8OI23G1Ntqs= =AH9o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --qw2nclyin4tnonzo--