From nobody Sun Jun 20 10:26:51 2021 X-Original-To: fs@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 846BF11DA845 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:3]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org", Issuer "R3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4G783H3693z4mZP for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org (kenobi.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::50:1d]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (Client did not present a certificate) by mxrelay.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5385399 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: from kenobi.freebsd.org ([127.0.1.5]) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id 15KAQpKO052418 for ; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) Received: (from www@localhost) by kenobi.freebsd.org (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id 15KAQpbo052417 for fs@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 GMT (envelope-from bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: kenobi.freebsd.org: www set sender to bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org using -f From: bugzilla-noreply@freebsd.org To: fs@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?UTF-8?B?W0J1ZyAyNTY3MTJdIFVGUzoga2VybmVsIHBhbmljOiBmZnNfYmxr?= =?UTF-8?B?ZnJlZV9jZzogZnJlZWluZyBmcmVlIGZyYWcg4oCTIGluIHJlc3BvbnNlIHRv?= =?UTF-8?B?IHBrZy1kZWxldGUoOCkgc29vbiBhZnRlciBsb2dpbg==?= Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 10:26:51 +0000 X-Bugzilla-Reason: AssignedTo X-Bugzilla-Type: changed X-Bugzilla-Watch-Reason: None X-Bugzilla-Product: Base System X-Bugzilla-Component: kern X-Bugzilla-Version: 13.0-RELEASE X-Bugzilla-Keywords: panic X-Bugzilla-Severity: Affects Only Me X-Bugzilla-Who: grahamperrin@gmail.com X-Bugzilla-Status: Open X-Bugzilla-Resolution: X-Bugzilla-Priority: --- X-Bugzilla-Assigned-To: fs@FreeBSD.org X-Bugzilla-Flags: X-Bugzilla-Changed-Fields: Message-ID: In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Bugzilla-URL: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/ Auto-Submitted: auto-generated List-Id: Filesystems List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-fs List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-fs@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D256712 --- Comment #5 from Graham Perrin --- (In reply to Kirk McKusick from comment #3) > When you say you were using `automated filesystem checks'=20 > were the runs of fsck being done before booting multi-user or=20 > were they being done in background after the system started running? Here's where I admit to not properly understanding some of what's under and (unle= ss I'm missing something) the history there touches upon journaling _but not_ journaled soft updates.=20 The simplest answer to the question might be that (for tests of this nature= ) I would never manually exit to multi-user mode without seeing an explicit mes= sage confirming a mark of cleanliness.=20 If there's the mark of cleaniness for a particular file system=20 =E2=80=93 in this case, /=20 =E2=80=93 and if the mark results from an automated fsck that precedes auto= mated progress to multi-user mode =E2=80=93 then will a background check occur (f= or this file system) regardless of the mark? Here's where I take particular interest in comments at and under bug 255799 comment 2.=20 Other questions bubbling under but for now, I'll can them =E2=80=A6 and I f= eel that I haven't properly answered your question (because I'm not certain of the answer). Sorry. --=20 You are receiving this mail because: You are the assignee for the bug.=