Feb 19 meeting actions, discussion, notes, and recording

From: Greg Wallace <gwallace_at_netactuate.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2025 16:31:10 UTC
Hi All,

We met last week on Wednesday. Good attendance and a nice discussion.

Before I get to the general update, one action and one point of discussion

*Action: *there is an open PR relative to OpenJDK support on FreeBSD -
https://github.com/openjdk/jdk/pull/23611

There is plenty of discussion and progress. If you feel so inclined, please
upvote to encourage continued movement.

*Discussion*

Would it make sense to restructure this group? It has always been a bit of
a grab bag intended (according to the Charter):

*to bring clarity to feature and other gaps that limit enterprise (e.g.
business or end user) adoption of FreeBSD as a general-purpose server
platform and provide a supportive group to help developers close these
gaps.*


Reflecting on the year+ of operations of the WG, it seems to me like we
have been quite successful at bringing clarity to the gaps that limit
enterprise adoption. But I don't think we've been as successful
supporting the development efforts to close these gaps.

With the benefit of time, my sense is that the only support that really
will make any difference in helping developers close the gaps is money, and
that was never (really) the remit of the WG.

*Options:*

   1. Keep it as is and use the WG meetings as a way to track progress and
   identify additional areas that need work
   2. Break it up into a few more focused areas, e.g.
      1. Broaden the AD/DNS integration workstream into a SSO WG
      2. Break GPU acceleration into its own WG
      3. Remove all workstreams where there are existing funded or
      community efforts (OpenJDK, Sovereign Tech Agency, bhyve
manageability) or
      where the scope of the effort is 100% understood and it's simply a matter
      of time and persistence (smbfs, GHA)
   3. Some combination of 1 & 2
   4. Other ideas? Let the group know other options you think make sense

Once we have a list of options, I can send out a quick survey to get
people's thoughts on the best path.

*Meeting Updates*

   - Tomek shared success running CUDA on FreeBSD with GTX 1060, seeing
   6-week to 4-day speedup on computations. Shared this link in the chat if
   you want to read up:
   https://forums.freebsd.org/threads/is-opencl-possible-with-the-current-nvidia-driver.78304/#post-688517
   - Carmi is having conversations with the AMD GPU folks, including about
   ROCm on FreeBSD
   - Cloud Native and Kubernetes
      - OCI runtime extension for FreeBSD on track for Q1 acceptance
      - New GitHub org "FreeBSD Cloud Tech" created to manage collaboration
      on cloud-related repos
      - Broader interest in cloud native capabilities beyond just containers
      - No timeline yet for full Kubernetes support
   - GitHub Actions Support
      - GitHub team can't prioritize FreeBSD support in 2025
      - Community and large users (e.g. Netflix) continuing to apply
      pressure
      - Potential influence from Microsoft/Azure being explored
   -  There were also some nice updates from the Foundation on Sovereign
   Tech Agency-funded projects

*Recording: *https://fathom.video/share/YSupzFEYBgrn1GoeauVv99Vz2zLNPg7x

Thank you!

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Greg Wallace